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A bit above the section bafan referenced is this -

4) Type Rating. When a type rating is shown on the U.S. pilot certificate (meaning a U.S. pilot certificate that was issued on the basis of a foreign pilot license), that aircraft type rating will be limited to “VFR ONLY” if the person has not passed either the IFP knowledge test or the standard instrument rating knowledge test and the standard instrument rating practical test. Applicants who apply for a type rating with the notation “U.S. TEST PASSED” on their U.S. pilot certificate must have received the required training from a holder of an FAA flight instructor certificate with the appropriate ratings. If the aircraft type rating is for an aircraft with a gross takeoff weight of greater than 12,500 pounds, the applicant must also complete a background security check administered by the TSA. The reporting requirements of the TSA’s background check is on its Web site. Once the applicant has qualified for the “U.S. TEST PASSED” rating on a U.S. pilot certificate under 61.75, the aircraft rating and/or type rating annotated with the notation “U.S. TEST PASSED” is eligible for transfer to an unrestricted U.S. pilot certificate without any further showing of competency or practical test if the applicant later obtains an unrestricted U.S. pilot certificate.

So the only way to do a real transfer of a foreign type is to get the 61.75 "based on certificate" and pass the regular IR written or the Foreign Pilot IR written. You would then have to show that your type rating training was conducted by FAA approved instructors. Pilotchute is the first person I've heard of who might have been to do this. Unfortunately you can't go back and get a 61.75 cert after you get a regular FAA pilot certificate.

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Originally Posted by pilotchute (Post 10564382)

Here is a good one.

I did an FAA type rating on the A320 at Pan Am Florida in 2014. I didn't have an FAA certificate at the time as I was only licensed in Australia. Australia accept FAA ratings so its on my Australian certificate.

I now have an FAA ATP and am looking for a way to get the 320 put on the FAA certificate. Thr FSDO keeps telling me they dont convert foreign type ratings and I almost lose my cool telling them the rating was done in a US certified simulator by an FAA instructor in the USA.

Help please

Are you current on the 320? If so you can get it put on your FAA ATP

I am not unfortunately.

To be fair you don't need the type rating on your FAA certificate. It won't help you get hired - If you get offered a job they'll train you to fly want you to fly anyway. It's the hours in the logbook that will help with that.

That is one thing like very much about the US aviation industry. Its about your skills not if you have experience on a specific type.

Because the rest of the world is almost allergic to spending anything on training they want you typed and current on day one of groundschool.

LICENSE CONVERSION

Hello guys! Just a quick question for y'all. In case I convert my icao license to FAA(atp), all my hours will be added to faa and can I log on both license after conversion?

You don't log on a licence you log in a logbook. You need a licence to be legal on the day.

I’m looking at converting my IACO ATPL to a FAA ATP. Already have a B737 rating with approx 4000hrs on type. Seeking recommendations for best place to undertake conversation process.

When you get a job with a US carrier they'll put you through a rating anyway. You'll get the ATP for free.

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Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 12060248)

When you get a job with a US carrier they'll put you through a rating anyway. You'll get the ATP for free.

But would the ATP-CTP course and written be his responsibility ? I guess it might depend on the airline in question ?

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Originally Posted by Friendship 7 (Post 12059976)

I’m looking at converting my IACO ATPL to a FAA ATP. Already have a B737 rating with approx 4000hrs on type. Seeking recommendations for best place to undertake conversation process.

I can recommend K&S Aviation Services. I went through them, great instructors and the admin staff are all great. I believe the ground school portion is all done online now, so that’s even better.

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Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 12060248)

When you get a job with a US carrier they'll put you through a rating anyway. You'll get the ATP for free.

Most of the main carriers in the US will require an unrestricted ATP before you apply. Only a handful will run the CTP course prior to you joining, but most expect you to have an FAA ATP before you apply.

I would cough up and pay for the ATP-CTP then take the written test before applying for jobs. Obviously an ATP would be better, but if they're going to type you anyway it won't cost them anything extra.

If you go through the training at your US airline for a type that is already on your ATP you only do a PC vs a full type ride which is slightly less involved. Not sure of all the differences but the main benefit is the opportunity to do a retrain and do-over on a couple maneuvers rather than an automatic bust. Not sure if an AQP program has that advantage though, might be the same there either way.

Most of the regionals in the US will cover the CTP as part of new hire training and some 135s also for pilots moving over to the left seat. The mainline carriers will expect a pilot to at least have the knowledge test passed which would require the CTP to have been completed. Having the ATP certificate would move a resume higher up on the stack.

Yes ctp is usually covered by the company but I’ve lately seen more and more people who pay it out of pocket.