Envoy just announced that they are now hiring.

Speculation time:

It appears the regionals are starting to hire again. Once this COVID thing gets turned around, what will the pilot supply for regionals be...short like before...or still plenty of refugees from the three defunct regionals available to meet the need ? It's hard to know how many of these folks have either found a spot elsewhere or left the profession completely.

And how about the supply of the people who were working toward their 1500 hours CFIing, etc., on their way to a regional ? Any change in those numbers ? Have new entrants to the profession been scared away by the mess of the last year or so ?

Some Regionals who say they are "hiring" have merely resumed new hire classes. Commutair and Gojet are the only ones I know who have people in class right now that didn't have a CJO from last year. A few others are also doing classes for cadet programs that they run.

Skywest have 600 CJOs to get through before an off the street hire gets a class.

Most regionals also don't seem to be interested in taking people who don't either have an ATP or have not completed ATP-CTP already. This only applies to non cadets and no CJO people.

Remember the 100 people that Frontier was saying they were hiring in January? They only just started Interviews for that 5 months later.

I also just looked on the Envoy website. No pilot jobs listed in careers section.

Yes, I don't doubt what you've listed. There are lots of loose ends to be tied up from this mess. My question is more about what happens to regional supply after the dust settles from all the interim processes you've described. It'll take a crystal ball hence the use of "speculation" in my question.

I looked at the FAA data for student pilot certificates issued as a loose measure of how many people might be contemplating entering the profession. Unfortunately, data for 2019 is the latest they list.

When the dust settles do you mean when international travel returns? Because until then we won't get back to 2019 levels. I don't think there will be any shortfall of 1500 hour peeps to feed the regional machine for at least 24 months.

Flight schools in my area had a drop in students from March to July 2020 but have been back at normal levels since. That in my opinion has given supply a chance to "catch up" with demand so to speak.

I don't buy the pilot shortage apocalypse some people are predicting. Sounds like flight school marketing to me!

I don't have any specific timeline in mind...I'm just spitballing the topic. I also don't put much faith in the notion of a pilot shortage although the regionals did appear to be scrambling a bit for fresh meat pre-covid. Just curious if that circumstance will return when the world rights itself. Who knows...I sure don't.

I spoke with a very Senior United capt (30 years) last week. He said he gave up long ago trying to predict this industry.

I think we are on a slow and steady upward trajectory that may flatten out a few times before we are back to "normal". The only thing I see that may stall the increase in demand is a reluctance of people to get vaccinated. My guess is many central and south american countries, all of Asia and Europe will eventually require travellers to be vaccinated or show a certificate of recovery to travel.

My crystal ball!

GoJet looking for CRJ DECs. In this environment ? Interesting:

https://www.airlineapps.com/news/ite...ce=SkyJobs.com

Very interesting indeed. Heard they were struggling to even pay the leases on their jets a short while back...maybe UA is propping them up

An opportunity for some lower time pilots but it has a training contract:

Embraer 120 Brasilia (18 month Training Agreement)


https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/12874.html

Skywest taking the long view ?

https://www.jsfirm.com/job/Pilot-Fix...h/jobID_784012

It appears Sun Country Airlines is trolling through the large flight schools and universities for pilot material. Right from being a 1500 hour CFI to a B737 spot. Why mess with a regional:


"As US airlines continue their search for enough cockpit crewmembers to fill both current and future demand, ATP Flight School and Sun Country Airlines just announced a pilot hiring partnership to create a direct pathway for ATP graduates to join the Minneapolis-based airline as Boeing 737 first officers."


https://www.flyingmag.com/story/care...ry-partner-up/



"INTRODUCING a groundbreaking partnership between Sun Country Airlines and University of North Dakota, giving commercial aviation students the opportunity to secure full-time employment prior to graduation through the Sun Country Bridge Program."



https://aero.und.edu/aviation/_files...y-airlines.pdf

Mesa announced a $20K sign-on bonus. No details on the website. You have to contact them for that:

https://www.mesa-air.com/pilots

Has PSA always required F/O applicants to be active CFIs ? This from the PSA pilot recruiting page:


Required
• Must be a current CFI, actively instructing

https://careers-psaairlines.icims.co...un1offset=-240

Why is this headhunting outfit screening DECs for a US regional ? Can't regional do that for themselves ?

"We are partnered with one of the nations largest regional airlines to identify candidates for their Direct Entry Captain program. "

https://www.jsfirm.com/job/Pilot-Fix...a/jobID_835145

headhunting outside USA?
 

I recently (2 weeks ago) spoke with some recruiters at an event in Florida. They could not give me answers on the specific interest or need for foreign pilots. Do you actually hire qualified foreigners?
All others boxes were ticked, which was very positive but this still is a vague but important area for me. Getting the working permit is the bottle neck for me now.(dutch citizen 2000+ hrs TP and jet).. Any other great insights would be appreciated..

Regards

Getting the legal ability to live/work in the USA is the biggest hurdle.

Can you offer any details about the event you attended or the people to whom you spoke ?

I went to the L3 harris fair. I spoke with recruiters of envoy and endeavor. In their defence it was mainly focused on students currently enrolled at the facility. I just crashed the party since I was in the vicinity on a short holiday break. They were not prepared for these questions, but they ensured me that getting the seats filled is a challenge. If you need more details just pm me..

losbol,

Interesting. Too bad they didn't have more info for you. I don't hear much new or entertaining from US regionals lately. Hard to say what's actually happening. Most info is anecdotal so it's hard to know for sure without statements directly from the companies themselves.

However, there are some firsthand reports on the Aussie forum of personal contact with regionals regarding E3 activity. These are likely pretty accurate.

Air Wisconsin dangles some bait:

https://airwis.com/pilots.html