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Ton747 21st May 2025 02:24

Swiss Pilot Shortage
 
So Swiss allegedly are short on pilots and cancelling flights because of it. Citing needing 110 pilots annually to fill the retirement positions and facilitate growth… Any chance they’ll do the same thing as KLM and drop the German language requirement?

Sisiphos 21st May 2025 02:51

Noin.

juxa 1st June 2025 20:17


Originally Posted by Ton747 (Post 11887437)
So Swiss allegedly are short on pilots and cancelling flights because of it. Citing needing 110 pilots annually to fill the retirement positions and facilitate growth… Any chance they’ll do the same thing as KLM and drop the German language requirement?

Switzerland has 4 official languages, why to speak German with a Zurich accent?

wondering 2nd June 2025 06:23

I reckon, most candidates fail the DLR test.

bene33 2nd June 2025 08:38

Is it a good place to work?

Tarzanboy 4th June 2025 21:47

If they would cancel that silly DLR test or equivalent and hire Direct Entry Captains, I would probably apply today.

blind pew 5th June 2025 06:17

30 years ago it was a good place to work but difficult for foreigners; bad enough the attitude between the Swiss Germans and the Romaine let alone the Swiss Italians (there were none iirc in Swissair). My wife couldn’t hack the racism especially after our 5 year old daughter was beaten up at kindergarten by a group of boys in front of the teacher and came home to ask me what auslander pack meant- foreign scum.
23% of the pilot force were foreigners in 1980; direct entry captains had long ceased and eventually Crossair was built up to undermine the SR pilot force employment conditions and being based at Basel could ignore the Swiss employment criteria.
I was one of the last group of foreigners; the largest part of which were English speaking but no requirement for German - Swiss German isn’t German with a Zurich accent.
Years later as one of the few English that spoke Swiss German after some very personal private lessons one of the chiefs said they would never recruit Brits again.
The flying and training was miles above BA standards as were the conditions- at the time of my interview we could afford to go out for a meal once a year..we didn’t get compensation for our previous experience due to some Dutch ex klm flight school guys but starting salary was double my BA 7 year one and a British captain said that I should be able to take my family out to eat 5 times a week on that. I didn’t really believe him but after a year I was renting a house for around chf2,500 a month. Certainly is a beautiful country and at this old age having had my wife the victim of crime yet again in france I would appreciate living in a police state even if I had to listen to Hals krankheit although at one time I dreamt in it.

snl13 5th June 2025 07:57

Still not enough of a shortage to pump salaries up in EU sadly.

Less Hair 5th June 2025 08:11

I have heard at LH Group (total, not only Swiss) there is a huge pool of DLR-pre-screened pilot candidates ready for the call to flight school that was put on hold recently. Their WhatsApp group count is said to be like 500. Sounds like LH might slightly step on the brakes?

Athinaki 3rd December 2025 13:21


Originally Posted by Ton747 (Post 11887437)
So Swiss allegedly are short on pilots and cancelling flights because of it. Citing needing 110 pilots annually to fill the retirement positions and facilitate growth… Any chance they’ll do the same thing as KLM and drop the German language requirement?

Swiss CEO Jens Fehlinger apparently has stated in an interview with swiss media they're considering to drop the german requirement due to ongoing pilot shortages.

Aviator28pm 3rd December 2025 22:41

Hi everyone does Swissair can hire FO’s with TR?

Groundloop 4th December 2025 14:35

Swissair don't hire any FOs - with or without TR - as there is no such airline as Swissair.

If you are ever thinking of applying for a job the first thing to get right is the company's name!

Less Hair 4th December 2025 14:40


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11895478)
I have heard at LH Group (total, not only Swiss) there is a huge pool of DLR-pre-screened pilot candidates ready for the call to flight school that was put on hold recently. Their WhatsApp group count is said to be like 500. Sounds like LH might slightly step on the brakes?

My guys all got called up to flight school by now.

Discus942 10th December 2025 19:19

Anybody knows what the take-home pay and growth is for a new hire is at Swiss these days? Is there a difference between the LH/SH pay?

WhatShortage 10th December 2025 21:34


Originally Posted by Groundloop (Post 12000406)
Swissair don't hire any FOs - with or without TR - as there is no such airline as Swissair.

If you are ever thinking of applying for a job the first thing to get right is the company's name!

if you’re in the company there’s no wonder why no one wants to go there, not to mention the salary. I would rather work at McDonald’s than put up with this kind of atmosphere LMAO

IZH 11th December 2025 16:13


Originally Posted by Discus942 (Post 12003278)
Anybody knows what the take-home pay and growth is for a new hire is at Swiss these days? Is there a difference between the LH/SH pay?

No difference in LH/SH pay, only per diems differ a little bit. Pilotjobsnetwork is up to date and additionally to the basic salary there is a profit share depending on company and Lufthansa group profit. Taxes depend on where you live in switzerland (or europe, of course).
Training is running at absolute maximum, so I‘m not sure if the problem is the lack of applicants.


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