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Transavia NL
Hello everyone,
I’ve been invited to the Transavia Holland assessments and was hoping someone could shed some light on the rosters at HV. What does a typical roster look like? (Here or in private.) Also, do you think the job is commutable from another European airport with frequent KLM flights? I’ve heard that in Transavia France, quite a few pilots commute from all over the country—does that happen at HV as well? Is there any sort of bidding system to influence your roster or get more layovers? The job listing mentions that we can use KLM or Transavia jumpseats if we live abroad—how does that work in practice? Are those flights free for commuters (like at sister companies Air France and TVF), or is there a standby ticket fee?Lastly, is there any arrangement for reduced hotel rates near Schiphol for Transavia crews? Thanks in advance for any info you can share! |
Great questions
Hi,
I would like to know as well :) |
Originally Posted by Frosty14
(Post 11874245)
Hello everyone,
I’ve been invited to the Transavia Holland assessments and was hoping someone could shed some light on the rosters at HV. What does a typical roster look like? (Here or in private.) Also, do you think the job is commutable from another European airport with frequent KLM flights? I’ve heard that in Transavia France, quite a few pilots commute from all over the country—does that happen at HV as well? Is there any sort of bidding system to influence your roster or get more layovers? The job listing mentions that we can use KLM or Transavia jumpseats if we live abroad—how does that work in practice? Are those flights free for commuters (like at sister companies Air France and TVF), or is there a standby ticket fee?Lastly, is there any arrangement for reduced hotel rates near Schiphol for Transavia crews? Thanks in advance for any info you can share! A typical roster will be close to 4/3. You can try and bid for early or late check-ins. Typically there is an early departure wave from AMS with check-in times between 04:00 and 06:00LT. The afternoon departure wave with check-ins between 14:00 and 18:00 depending on stretch length. Most of them with checkout times around midnight and some very late finishes more towards 02:00LT. You can commute for free with Transavia or KLM to any of their destinations in the network. Commuting should be possible and quite a few pilots commute. But consider that a early start and late finish in your working week. With a late duty before your weekend you will not be able to commute back on the same day. With an early start on day 1 you will not be able to commute before your flight to make it on time for your check-in. As far as I know there is no special fare for hotels around Schiphol. Most of the commuters have an appartement in NL for their working week. |
Originally Posted by aerodestination
(Post 11877094)
rostering is random. 20/15 for fulltimers. Maximum 6 days on duty. Minimum is 3 days off. You can influence your roster with a Jeppesen bidding module. You can bid as much on layovers as you can, however Transavia NL does not have that many layovers at the moment. So most of your flights will be 2 stretches out and return.
A typical roster will be close to 4/3. You can try and bid for early or late check-ins. Typically there is an early departure wave from AMS with check-in times between 04:00 and 06:00LT. The afternoon departure wave with check-ins between 14:00 and 18:00 depending on stretch length. Most of them with checkout times around midnight and some very late finishes more towards 02:00LT. You can commute for free with Transavia or KLM to any of their destinations in the network. Commuting should be possible and quite a few pilots commute. But consider that a early start and late finish in your working week. With a late duty before your weekend you will not be able to commute back on the same day. With an early start on day 1 you will not be able to commute before your flight to make it on time for your check-in. As far as I know there is no special fare for hotels around Schiphol. Most of the commuters have an appartement in NL for their working week. Days OFF must include a local night no? So there souldnt be any early reporting before 6AM after a day OFF? I also heard that at Transavia the minumum rest after a duty can not infringe on a day OFF. From that I would also guess you cant have any late finishes before your days off right? How does the Eindhoven base work? I thought it was a pseudo base with no crews properly based there and just AMS crews having layovers. The 3 days OFF are every time I get off days or just once a month and the rest of the days OFF can be spread how they like? I understand from your answer there could also be part time options? How does that look like, and is there any chance to get it woth low seniority? Thanks again, have a great day! |
Originally Posted by Frosty14
(Post 11877157)
Thanks a lot for your extensive answer.
Days OFF must include a local night no? So there souldnt be any early reporting before 6AM after a day OFF? I also heard that at Transavia the minumum rest after a duty can not infringe on a day OFF. From that I would also guess you cant have any late finishes before your days off right? How does the Eindhoven base work? I thought it was a pseudo base with no crews properly based there and just AMS crews having layovers. The 3 days OFF are every time I get off days or just once a month and the rest of the days OFF can be spread how they like? I understand from your answer there could also be part time options? How does that look like, and is there any chance to get it woth low seniority? Thanks again, have a great day! You have 3 days (72 hours) every time you have an assigned weekend. That is minimum. If you work part-time 75%, 24h will be added. So 4 days off. There is no seniority needed to work part-time. So yes, you will get that even with low seniority. After 1 year in the company. |
Hi everyone,
Could someone please provide more information about the rostering system and how off days are scheduled, especially when flying at 75%? Is it true that your ON days are more intense, with more flight hours or duties packed into them? Besides that I’m particularly interested in how standbys work, how often are you assigned standby duties, and is there a high chance of actually being called in when you’re on standby? Thanks in advance! |
In case someone flying for Transavia and willing to share some details, PM would be appreciated.
Thanks! |
Same here!
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Originally Posted by 320fly
(Post 11914869)
Hi everyone,
Could someone please provide more information about the rostering system and how off days are scheduled, especially when flying at 75%? Is it true that your ON days are more intense, with more flight hours or duties packed into them? Besides that I’m particularly interested in how standbys work, how often are you assigned standby duties, and is there a high chance of actually being called in when you’re on standby? Thanks in advance! New agreement was made last year between union and airline regarding 75% (DEELTIJD in Dutch). a) From December 9, 2024, the following limits, pro rata to the employment percentage, will apply to all pilots: 190 hours of duty in 28 consecutive days 100 hours of block time in 28 successful days 900 hours of block time in any calendar year 1000 hours of block time in 12 months. b) For the limits for duty and block time in 28 days, the number of working days in the period of 28 consecutive days is examined to determine the employment percentage. The following table applies to the impact of this on the limits: Aantal werkbare dagen Bloktijd totaal Duty totaal 1 6:15 11:53 2 12:30 23:45 3 18:45 35:37 4 25:00 47:30 5 31:15 59:22 6 37:30 71:15 7 43:45 83:07 8 50:00 95:00 9 56:15 106:53 10 62:30 118:45 11 68:45 130:37 12 75:00 142:30 13 81:15 154:22 14 87:30 166:15 15 93:45 178:07 >15 100:00 190:00 STANDBY Also a new agreement was made regarding standbys. Transavia published rosters without all flights manned...flights would be open for weeks and you would be called 1 hour before reporting. A tactic to keep max flexbility. With the new agreement all flights need to be manned at least 48hours before departure. Meaning standbys <48hours are now being used for there intended purpose: sickness and not-fit. Most of the time you know now 48hours in advance what you will be doing during your standby. TRANSAVIA For the ones considering joining...it is a GREAT company. - Very positive and pleasant working environment. - Ability to fly to a lot of C airports (INN, SZG, SMI, FNC etc) - Ability to self develop, often internal vacancies published: TRI, test-pilot, part-time office vacancies (training or safety) etc. No cryonism in that, everybody needs to apply and gets a fair chance. - All combinations of working parttime. - Possible to live abroad and position for free on Transavia/KLM to AMS. - List goes on... |
Thanks sir. Sounds really good. Is it correct that you can fly 75% or 50% after 1 year?
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Hi everyone.
I managed to see the offer on their website and to be honest it does not look bad. What I don’t understand is why they offer a temporary contract. Furthermore, they expect for you to learn Dutch, sounds like one of the terms for renewing the contract is the knowledge of the language. Would you consider joining Transavia (on 737) with this conditions? On top of that the 737 is phasing out for the 320 in the next years (official statement). |
Originally Posted by Maverick SKC
(Post 11936248)
Hi everyone.
I managed to see the offer on their website and to be honest it does not look bad. What I don’t understand is why they offer a temporary contract. Furthermore, they expect for you to learn Dutch, sounds like one of the terms for renewing the contract is the knowledge of the language. Would you consider joining Transavia (on 737) with this conditions? On top of that the 737 is phasing out for the 320 in the next years (official statement). It is a 5 month probation period and on completion of your line training there will be a full time contract for you. They don't expect you to speak Dutch after only a TQ and line training. If you start on the 737 you'll be trained for the A320 in the upcoming years. At no costs to you. No bond either. This will depend on your base and the pace of the Airbus phase in. starting salary of well over 110k a year for type rated FO's with previous experience (2800hrs). And great secondary benefits like high pension contribution and an excellent loss of license insurance (combination of lump sum cash and permanent disabilities pay until retirement). Off course it can be busy in the summer months. But in general it is a nice balance. |
Originally Posted by 320fly
(Post 11933966)
Thanks sir. Sounds really good. Is it correct that you can fly 75% or 50% after 1 year?
It is 2 years in the company working full time. So I might have mentioned that incorrectly earlies this topic. You can work 100%, 90%, 80%, 75%, 70%, 60%, 50%. 100% = 20 working days. 15 days of per 35 days. Random. When working 100% your weekend days will always be 3 consecutive days (72hrs). When working 75% or 50% the consecutive days will be 4 and 5 respectively. That is the minimum days off. It can be more and you can try to bid for that in the Jeppesen module. When working 100% you can also try and bid for more consecutive days off, but it will result in longer working periods. |
Originally Posted by aerodestination
(Post 11936290)
I just checked it with the labour agreement (which is publicly available).
It is 2 years in the company working full time. So I might have mentioned that incorrectly earlies this topic. You can work 100%, 90%, 80%, 75%, 70%, 60%, 50%. 100% = 20 working days. 15 days of per 35 days. Random. When working 100% your weekend days will always be 3 consecutive days (72hrs). When working 75% or 50% the consecutive days will be 4 and 5 respectively. That is the minimum days off. It can be more and you can try to bid for that in the Jeppesen module. When working 100% you can also try and bid for more consecutive days off, but it will result in longer working periods. Hi aerodestination, Can I also join this topic and ask you few questions? - command upgrade time, do you know anything about this? - profit share - they are officialy saying on their website that it is possible to have some profit share - do you have any info about that? - last question - more or less - net salary per month for FO with less than 2800 hours - any idea? Thank you for the info :) |
Originally Posted by taurus_azul
(Post 11941449)
Hi aerodestination,
Can I also join this topic and ask you few questions? - command upgrade time, do you know anything about this? - profit share - they are officialy saying on their website that it is possible to have some profit share - do you have any info about that? - last question - more or less - net salary per month for FO with less than 2800 hours - any idea? Thank you for the info :) profit share is based on the operational profit of KLM and Transavia. Maximum is 20% of gross yearly salary. So approx 2,5 months salary. However, quite unlikely at the moment since KLM does not do very well financially. Maybe a few percent in the upcoming years. A nice extra but do not rely on profit share to manage your life. net salary will be hard to tell. Where are you planning to live? If you live in the Netherlands you might be eligible for the expat taxing where 30% of your gross salary will be untaxed (max 5 years). That will be very significant on your net salary. Just try and calculate the net salary yourself from the gross salary. But take in mind that the gross monthly salary will be paid in full 14 times a year. In June and December you will have an additional monthly payment. And on top of the gross monthly salary there will be 10% net pension paid out. So that will also result in a higher net salary. So starting salary will be around 5300 net if you can work under the expat ruling and live in NL 4400 eur net normally taxed also slightly age depending due to net pension contributions. But these will be the ballpark figures joining with less than 2800 hours. joining over 2800 hours it will be: 6200 eur net working under expat ruling 5100 eur net normally taxed And your salary in May and December will be an additional 3000-4000 net. So net salary really depends on your situation. If you commute you'll probably pay taxes in your home country and everything will be different. |
Originally Posted by aerodestination
(Post 11941893)
command upgrade time is now less than 7 years. But not long ago it was 13 years. So currently a lot of upgrades and potentially a quick command. Not sure how long that will take if you join the company now. But probably anywhere between 6 and 10 years depending on external factors.
profit share is based on the operational profit of KLM and Transavia. Maximum is 20% of gross yearly salary. So approx 2,5 months salary. However, quite unlikely at the moment since KLM does not do very well financially. Maybe a few percent in the upcoming years. A nice extra but do not rely on profit share to manage your life. net salary will be hard to tell. Where are you planning to live? If you live in the Netherlands you might be eligible for the expat taxing where 30% of your gross salary will be untaxed (max 5 years). That will be very significant on your net salary. Just try and calculate the net salary yourself from the gross salary. But take in mind that the gross monthly salary will be paid in full 14 times a year. In June and December you will have an additional monthly payment. And on top of the gross monthly salary there will be 10% net pension paid out. So that will also result in a higher net salary. So starting salary will be around 5300 net if you can work under the expat ruling and live in NL 4400 eur net normally taxed also slightly age depending due to net pension contributions. But these will be the ballpark figures joining with less than 2800 hours. joining over 2800 hours it will be: 6200 eur net working under expat ruling 5100 eur net normally taxed And your salary in May and December will be an additional 3000-4000 net. So net salary really depends on your situation. If you commute you'll probably pay taxes in your home country and everything will be different. Best regards |
Hey guys,
I have an assesment for Transavia NL in Feb and looking for informations if someone can give me some.. Would be really appreciated Thank you !! |
Hello! Anyone have some infos about the assessment ?
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Hello people,
Any ideas if the recruitment will continue? Some guys from my flight school mentioned that after the first stage of interviews they were put on a hold as the training is a bit overloaded at the moment. Thanks in advance! |
Decades ago, had the best gig of my career with Transavia. Loved the airline, the dutch (specially the chics) and Holland. Wanted to stay but DEC 757 swop to RHS 73 and stay there for at least eight years was no contest for the pull of the Middle East.
Today, while understanding the chase for experience, type ratings etc, Careful. Take a close look at the Politics and intended legislation. Might be a consideration for a long-term plan. |
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