no pay deal has been put to the pilots to even vote on yet

How many years junior are you crazypilot? £5500 Net after a 6% salary sacrifice Pension contribution is a significant gross salary?
I assumed if I applied to BA DEP Longhaul I’d start on c.£66k gross / ~£3900 Net PCM?

It’s £71k gross basic now. Add £20k easily on to that LH. Thats around £5k after tax even for year 1.
For reference my P60 year 1 SH was £87k without much overtime. This year will be 6 figures if the overtime continues.

Got a few questions regarding this.

Is that 20k figure the flight pay or time away from base allowance?

From one of the recruitment pilots’ presentation on LinkedIn it states 81k salary for year 1 LH FO, which includes 12k flight pay.

Also regarding overtime. How much more is it per hour? if someone junior is doing 5-6 trips a month, they won’t be able to pick up any overtime I take it?

Thanks 👍🏼

Overtime you will get 1.5 times the credited value of the trip, plus allowances (TAFB and Flying Pay) at the normal rate.

The 20K figure is Time away from Base and Flight pay combined but is actually on the lower end of the spectrum if not an underestimate (aiminghigh has himself alluded to this). Long Haul you are looking much much closer to £30k.

As of 1st June PP1 LH FO is £71,312 basic before you add on allowances, flight pay etc.

You can elect to work in your Duty Free Weeks and pick up Overtime trips in those which gets around the problem of not being able to pick up in the busy months. Whether your body or family will thank you for doing this is another matter…

Hello,
Can anyone tell me what the gross, and take-home pay on average is monthly SH FO at LHR year 1? Weighing up my options
Cheers

I’d appreciate the same for a year 1 Long haul FO. Understand there have been conditions changed since this thread began

For both it varies… on long haul more of your allowances are tax free. Short haul, depends how many tours vs day trips you do and some destinations are less taxable than others.
But for rough round figures, I’d go on 4.5-5 net on short haul. Probably a little more for long haul.

Go for it. Don't look back. I'm 15 years in ezy and completely jaded. The money has been good, and afforded me a comortable life so far, but frankly I'm ready to walk away. The lifestyle is unsustainable, the pension utterly substandard. I'm LHS PT, but am still getting rinsed with 75hr+ months full of deep night 12hr Turkey/Greece. Utterly intolerable. If the EF contract wasn't so bad I'd be there already.

Check EF now. Big LHS pay lift started in May-ish time. New pay deal in year. Fixed pattern roster sounds to be very popular and well received. Much better flight times (later early deps out, earlier late arrivals in). And get it from the horses mouth, I hear so much BS from people that have no direct connection to EF!

do you have the may scales for EF? I posted the scales a while back but didnt know there was a new uplift recently.
Great news for the boys&girls there.

The fixed pattern looks inferior to ezy's 5453 and Ryanair's 54. What proportion of the workforce is on it?

Exactly the reason I left RYR when I could. It was clear to me that it was utterly unsustainable as a long term career. Not if you want to keep your sanity and have a meaningful personal life anyway.

Apples and oranges. Protections in earliest start and latest finish at start and end of block are far better; as well as roster stability and agreement protections from changes. Ryanair joiners are loving it compared to their previous roster. not sure on amount, circa 80%. Many of those not on it say it’s due to holiday (no longer being Monday-Friday) or senior guys who get weekends off bidding anyway.

To go to BA EF?

I joined BA mainline