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PPRuNeUser481044 8th April 2023 05:10

Emerald Airlines
 
Hi Guys,

Does someone have some information about this company? I am due to attend assessment for ATR captain with them but so far no email with any information.

Someone told me they have many pilots leaving the company because poor treatment from the management, is it true? I also heard things like very poor pay and financial difficulties/potential bankrupt .. i will appreciate some feedback

zapo 19th May 2023 17:52

Did you get the job?

PPRuNeUser481044 19th May 2023 19:30

I didn't bother in the end, in my very brief dealings with HR I found them to be amateurish and unprofessional. I also managed to get in touch with some current guys there and they all advised to steer well clear.


SHMROCK 23rd June 2023 21:29


Originally Posted by tecnamflyer (Post 11437274)
I didn't bother in the end, in my very brief dealings with HR I found them to be amateurish and unprofessional. I also managed to get in touch with some current guys there and they all advised to steer well clear.

A WISE MOVE

Pilot.S 4th September 2023 18:14

Has anyone applied as a low-hour pilot and heard anything back?


nrizzo98 12th September 2023 16:06

I've applied today as low-hour pilot. We'll see

ATR300 16th September 2023 16:39

Has anyone heard back about the Low hour post? Heard assessments were last week

spiffolo 14th November 2023 16:00

applied as low hours, didnt even get a no about my appilication.....not sure if i should try again(maybe it slipped in the net) or pass to the next one

Oblivion67 23rd November 2023 14:55

Legit info request- no negative comment please!
 
Can anyone advise some firsthand information please?

I'm interested to know:
1) Rough take-home net salary for captain on highest scale (7000+ PIC hrs), would it be 6k+ Net?
2) Type rating options, bond, up-front etc
3) Roster, how many sectors per day, hrs per month
4) Is there any seniority scale? Would be great if this tied in with the AerLingus seniority list.

Thanks guys,
OB

Consol 23rd November 2023 16:42


Originally Posted by Oblivion67 (Post 11544872)
Can anyone advise some firsthand information please?

I'm interested to know:
1) Rough take-home net salary for captain on highest scale (7000+ PIC hrs), would it be 6k+ Net?
2) Type rating options, bond, up-front etc
3) Roster, how many sectors per day, hrs per month
4) Is there any seniority scale? Would be great if this tied in with the AerLingus seniority list.

Thanks guys,
OB

Can't answer all your questions but under the Irish tax system you would need to clear €10k/m to net €6k. We're still paying an extra tax introduced after the financial crash of 2008/9. Housing is very expensive in Ireland.

No seniority in EI, you would start at the bottom.

Oblivion67 24th November 2023 08:19

Thanks for the info.

Just the salary again, sorry about this.

The scale I have shows basic top scale captain at 85000e. That ought to work out about 4600 Net per month. The sector pay is what 23e. That's tax free right? If they are all short sectors, say doing 70 hrs per month and each sector is 1 hr, that's 1600 net. Then there is the day off payments, 200-500. Surely you would be clearing 6k per month?

Cheers
OB

Whitemonk Returns 24th November 2023 11:07


Originally Posted by Oblivion67 (Post 11545263)
Thanks for the info.

Just the salary again, sorry about this.

The scale I have shows basic top scale captain at 85000e. That ought to work out about 4600 Net per month. The sector pay is what 23e. That's tax free right? If they are all short sectors, say doing 70 hrs per month and each sector is 1 hr, that's 1600 net. Then there is the day off payments, 200-500. Surely you would be clearing 6k per month?

Cheers
OB

No dog in the fight but why would sector pay be tax free in Ireland? It certainly isnt in the UK.

5strypes 24th November 2023 16:07


Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns (Post 11545348)
No dog in the fight but why would sector pay be tax free in Ireland? It certainly isnt in the UK.

It's a historical agreement with Revenue as far as I'm aware. It's not that it's tax free, but rather the tax is paid by the company not the employee.

AspiringFO 8th February 2024 22:06

Emerald Assesment
 
Hi All,
I have got an assessment coming soon with Emerald for FO position, has anyone got feedback from the interview part that could share please ?

wttchurst 16th July 2024 16:07

Hi there! I have one of these coming up too and I cant find any feedback anywhere. Anything you can share? Happy to reach out via email/DM

AspiringFO 15th September 2024 19:20

anyone going to assessment on the 1st of October ?

Stevenjohnbarr 20th September 2024 12:40

Yes I am going to be there for that.

Trainnutter 25th September 2024 10:11


Originally Posted by Stevenjohnbarr (Post 11737869)
Yes I am going to be there for that.

Me too!

Only thing I've heard interview wise with Emerald airlines specifically is an interview question is to tell them a technical fact about the ATR that you find interesting.


DADDY-OH! 25th October 2024 09:24

Which Recruitment agency…?
 
Hi! Which Recruitment Agency can anybody recommend for joining Emerald at the BHD base, please?
Thanks.

Trainnutter 25th October 2024 09:50


Originally Posted by DADDY-OH! (Post 11757144)
Hi! Which Recruitment Agency can anybody recommend for joining Emerald at the BHD base, please?
Thanks.

Im not sure about a recruitment agency, but I think its best to apply directly.

applications for FO are open now I think on their website

DADDY-OH! 25th October 2024 14:57

Thanks.
Does anybody know how much the BHD based guys are taking home after U.K. Tax, please?
Thanks

Trainnutter 25th October 2024 15:05


Originally Posted by DADDY-OH! (Post 11757377)
Thanks.
Does anybody know how much the BHD based guys are taking home after U.K. Tax, please?
Thanks

I was told by them at Pilor Careers Live for an FO its £55,000 including flight pay before tax. Using UK.gov tax calculator it comes out as £42,461. I know that Loganair FOs on the ATR72 are paid around £50k before tax including flight pay.

Also, I went for an assessment with Emerald earlier this month, unfortunately wasn't successful (But instead was successful with easyJet!). In their Interview its a pretty casual chat, but be warned as I fell victim to the false sense of security haha! They ask you pretty extensive knowlage on the ATR. But begins as "what do you know about the ATR". Know the basics like Hotel mode, what each Hydraulic systems power, how the Prop brake sorta works, max cruise alt, max fuel (5tn). Stuff like that.

HR questions are pretty standard tell me about yourself, Ground school grade, job history, etc. They ask questions based off your CV.

As for the sim assessment it's pretty straight forward. The XJ sim at Simtech isn;t great. Quite light on the controls if youre used to any normal 737 sim. Just a manual departure, VOR track, quick play with autopilot for a radar vectored ILS to land. ILS is on Raw data too. One interview question is as well "If you could do the sim again, what would you do differently"

Hope this helps!

Toro103r 27th October 2024 04:51


Originally Posted by tecnamflyer (Post 11437274)
I didn't bother in the end, in my very brief dealings with HR I found them to be amateurish and unprofessional. I also managed to get in touch with some current guys there and they all advised to steer well clear.

not sure who told you this, but as an FO within the company, its the nicest place I have worked in my career, everyone is really nice, any issues at all, you can speak to someone instantly face to face or only a phone call away, very nice working environment, and days are not long at all. You will have people complain in every company no matter how good the term and conditions, i know a couple here that would complain if they were offered 500k per year still. All said and done, its a really nice atmosphere here and people like it

Prob30Tempo TSRA 28th October 2024 21:39


Originally Posted by Trainnutter (Post 11740537)
Me too!

Only thing I've heard interview wise with Emerald airlines specifically is an interview question is to tell them a technical fact about the ATR that you find interesting.

Avoid ice at all costs ?

PPRuNeUser481044 29th October 2024 18:35


Originally Posted by Toro103r (Post 11758154)
not sure who told you this, but as an FO within the company, its the nicest place I have worked in my career, everyone is really nice, any issues at all, you can speak to someone instantly face to face or only a phone call away, very nice working environment, and days are not long at all. You will have people complain in every company no matter how good the term and conditions, i know a couple here that would complain if they were offered 500k per year still. All said and done, its a really nice atmosphere here and people like it

I presume you are aware that of the pilots from the old stobart franchise, practically everybody who could did abandoned Emerald, the majority before 18 months of the place starting up. Most have gone to Ryanair, and all had to join as FOs.

Yes, the captains and even LTCs of years left Emerald, to go and be Ryanair first officers, among 22 yr olds. If that doesn't tell you the story, then nothing will.

This isn't the standard moaning battalion (that every operator has), this was mass exodus.

HR were very disrespectful and unprofessional in my own dealings with them. From talking to others, they had much the same experience at the time.

The head of HR head came from the Irish health service (HSE), an organisation famous for corruption and incompetence. Out of nowhere she is head of HR for an airline ...??

AspiringFO 29th October 2024 18:48

Emerald
 
Ones could argue they're leaving not cause it's terrible place to work but salary and perspectives are unbeatable elsewhere flying 320 and 737.




Originally Posted by tecnamflyer (Post 11759579)
I presume you are aware that of the pilots from the old stobart franchise, practically everybody who could did abandoned Emerald, the majority before 18 months of the place starting up. Most have gone to Ryanair, and all had to join as FOs.

Yes, the captains and even LTCs of years left Emerald, to go and be Ryanair first officers, among 22 yr olds. If that doesn't tell you the story, then nothing will.

This isn't the standard moaning battalion (that every operator has), this was mass exodus.

HR were very disrespectful and unprofessional in my own dealings with them. From talking to others, they had much the same experience at the time.

The head of HR head came from the Irish health service (HSE), an organisation famous for corruption and incompetence. Out of nowhere she is head of HR for an airline ...??


PPRuNeUser481044 29th October 2024 23:28


Originally Posted by AspiringFO (Post 11759584)
Ones could argue they're leaving not cause it's terrible place to work but salary and perspectives are unbeatable elsewhere flying 320 and 737.

One could argue that, however one conversation with any one of them will tell you that isnt what caused them to leave. You don't leave your LTC post of 10+ yrs to go be an ULCC first officer because you feel like it.

It doesn't take much googling to figure out how bad things are.

Prob30Tempo TSRA 30th October 2024 09:59


Originally Posted by tecnamflyer (Post 11759690)
One could argue that, however one conversation with any one of them will tell you that isnt what caused them to leave. You don't leave your LTC post of 10+ yrs to go be an ULCC first officer because you feel like it.

It doesn't take much googling to figure out how bad things are.

To be fair though it doesn’t matter if you’ve done 10 years as an ATR TRE you are still going to have to bite the bullet and be an FO if you want to move to a mid size jet

AspiringFO 30th October 2024 10:40

I know a ATR TRI cpt, he recently became RYR cpt. Idk where you guys are getting ATR experience is not relevant. Flying skills are pretty demanding in order to fly ATR( no autothrottle + conditional levers).

Prob30Tempo TSRA 30th October 2024 11:12


Originally Posted by AspiringFO (Post 11759904)
I know a ATR TRI cpt, he recently became RYR cpt. Idk where you guys are getting ATR experience is not relevant. Flying skills are pretty demanding in order to fly ATR( no autothrottle + conditional levers).

Direct or time as FO first ? You are missing the point - we’ve had this Willy waving about flying skills before . It’s nothing to do with that . Most insurers will specify a min hrs / on a min weight aircraft to be allowed to be P1

PPRuNeUser481044 30th October 2024 15:09


Originally Posted by AspiringFO (Post 11759904)
I know a ATR TRI cpt, he recently became RYR cpt. Idk where you guys are getting ATR experience is not relevant. Flying skills are pretty demanding in order to fly ATR( no autothrottle + conditional levers).

That TRI would have have had other relevant jet experience that RYR accepted. Go check the requirements for yourself.

Regarding the other bit about an ATR being demanding enough to allow a TP captain go left seat jet .. the naivety is astounding.

Toro103r 31st October 2024 19:53


Originally Posted by tecnamflyer (Post 11759579)
I presume you are aware that of the pilots from the old stobart franchise, practically everybody who could did abandoned Emerald, the majority before 18 months of the place starting up. Most have gone to Ryanair, and all had to join as FOs.

Yes, the captains and even LTCs of years left Emerald, to go and be Ryanair first officers, among 22 yr olds. If that doesn't tell you the story, then nothing will.

This isn't the standard moaning battalion (that every operator has), this was mass exodus.

HR were very disrespectful and unprofessional in my own dealings with them. From talking to others, they had much the same experience at the time.

The head of HR head came from the Irish health service (HSE), an organisation famous for corruption and incompetence. Out of nowhere she is head of HR for an airline ...??

Yes some have gone, but a lot are still there and plan on staying, ryanair gave a pretty good offer, and no captain without a type rating on the 737 can hop into the left seat straight away, it was a 12 month in the right seat offer first then command, much better that anywhere else. but a lot of past people from stobart still there to this day. people have actually come back from ryanair in the past few months that only left 12 months ago.

Toro103r 31st October 2024 20:01


Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA (Post 11759872)
To be fair though it doesn’t matter if you’ve done 10 years as an ATR TRE you are still going to have to bite the bullet and be an FO if you want to move to a mid size jet

look at aer lingus mainline, guys with thousands of hours jet time, having to join as an FO and spend prob 7 years on average to start from scratch again, ryanair was a no brainer while the offers were good, money is very good on offer too, and no more direct entry going forward for years now they announced.
Coming back to Emerald, the days are very nice and nothing like the long days on jets etc, everybody gets on well with everyone, know all the guys including ground crew, office crew etc, bigger salary jobs will obviously attract people elsewhere, but quality of life is much nicer here imo.


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