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SW1 3rd August 2022 18:48


Originally Posted by ihatemorningflights (Post 11272402)
I thought roster is 5/4 which would have been better, but 5/3 is not soooo bad.

Roster is 5/4

ihatemorningflights 3rd August 2022 19:36


Originally Posted by FlyingMan93 (Post 11270288)
Did anybody get the invitation to the online assessment for Cadet Pilots scheme?

I just got invitation as A320 TR FO. Anybody else?

ihatemorningflights 3rd August 2022 19:51


Originally Posted by SW1 (Post 11272512)
Roster is 5/4

Do you maybe have any more info on recruitment? Can you choose your base before signing the conrtact? Is it hard to get a specific base?(for example VIE)

AviatorBoy_95 5th August 2022 18:01


Originally Posted by FlyingMan93 (Post 11270288)
Did anybody get the invitation to the online assessment for Cadet Pilots scheme?

Hi,
Any news about this? Applied to Cadet program as well and nothing so far. Don't really know how to interpret that

Abra4 10th August 2022 12:00

Hey,
Just got invited for the online assesment. I will do it later today, and can give you a feedback if needed. Anyone knows after this first stage what do they ask in the second one?

ihatemorningflights 10th August 2022 14:06


Originally Posted by Abra4 (Post 11275970)
Hey,
Just got invited for the online assesment. I will do it later today, and can give you a feedback if needed. Anyone knows after this first stage what do they ask in the second one?

Any feedback appreciated!

Abra4 12th August 2022 09:25

Hello,

So i did the assesment a few days ago, and i'll like to write a little feedback that may help you.
The assesment is pretty straightforward. You have 10 tasks to complete. You can select the desired task yourself (you don't have to make them in order.) pilotest.com is a great website to practice the CUT-E tests. There you can find all of them i had on the assesment. The hardest part for me was the deductive and inductive thinking. In the 10 tasks there is an ATPL (thecnical test) there you will find 30 questions, and you have 10 minutes to complete them. Mainly, POF, OPS, and i had some electricity questions as well. No charts and no calculations as you just have 10 minutes. I managed to answer all the 30 questions so it can be done in 10 mins. There is also a task where you have to record videos, where you answer HR questions. I had : Why ryan(i guess because it is the same process they did not change these questions), Why we should hire you, and what was the hardest part in your aviation career. Before every task you can practice, use that tool because for the first time some of the tasks can be hard.

Don't be afraid it really is not that hard. Good luck everyone.

limahotel 12th August 2022 19:48


Originally Posted by Abra4 (Post 11277032)
Hello,

So i did the assesment a few days ago, and i'll like to write a little feedback that may help you.
The assesment is pretty straightforward. You have 10 tasks to complete. You can select the desired task yourself (you don't have to make them in order.) pilotest.com is a great website to practice the CUT-E tests. There you can find all of them i had on the assesment. The hardest part for me was the deductive and inductive thinking. In the 10 tasks there is an ATPL (thecnical test) there you will find 30 questions, and you have 10 minutes to complete them. Mainly, POF, OPS, and i had some electricity questions as well. No charts and no calculations as you just have 10 minutes. I managed to answer all the 30 questions so it can be done in 10 mins. There is also a task where you have to record videos, where you answer HR questions. I had : Why ryan(i guess because it is the same process they did not change these questions), Why we should hire you, and what was the hardest part in your aviation career. Before every task you can practice, use that tool because for the first time some of the tasks can be hard.

Don't be afraid it really is not that hard. Good luck everyone.

Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?

ihatemorningflights 12th August 2022 20:21


Originally Posted by limahotel (Post 11277367)
Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?

I am rated pilot and the strange thing is that I got invited to Dublin but finally the assesment was full so I could not go but I have not received online assesment at all. Is it possible they just forget or they do not need!?

Abra4 14th August 2022 05:12


Originally Posted by limahotel (Post 11277367)
Are you Airbus rated? How soon did you receive the invitation for the online assessment?


Hey, i am non-type rated cadet.i heard that for rated the assesment is only 4 tasks, or even no online assesment. I recieved it within 2-3 days. I got a positive answer now. Anyone have feedback on how long it takes until they give you a sim assesment? And also any of you applied for ryan as well?

ihatemorningflights 14th August 2022 23:00

Salary
 
Please correct me, but with the two attached picture if I calculate with 48% tax then salary would be somthing like 2800€ for FO (net). That is very low salary in Vienna. Do you have any info about taxation with Lauda?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0da0ec1263.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef3172a8a5.png

RUDice 15th August 2022 07:39

Salary
 
Well, don't know what you expect in 2022 moneywise.. With 100 hours you get around 3.5k net, but don't expect 100 during winter months, 2.5-2.8 probably is closer to 40-50BH/m.
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??

Abra4 15th August 2022 07:48


Originally Posted by RUDice (Post 11278591)
Well, don't know what you expect in 2022 moneywise.. With 100 hours you get around 3.5k net, but don't expect 100 during winter months, 2.5-2.8 probably is closer to 40-50BH/m.
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??

it is not that bad to be honest. Wizz salary is more or less the same without the 5/4 roster. I guess from this 2.5-2.8 in the winter they still deduct the Type bond the same way than in the summer?

ihatemorningflights 15th August 2022 07:53


Originally Posted by Abra4 (Post 11278594)
it is not that bad to be honest. Wizz salary is more or less the same without the 5/4 roster. I guess from this 2.5-2.8 in the winter they still deduct the Type bond the same way than in the summer?

5/4 is just great. Wizz pays more in VIE. Senior FO salary around 5000 € net. It is a big difference.

FlightDetent 15th August 2022 08:20


Originally Posted by RUDice (Post 11278591)
It is not VERY low for VIE, unless you want to rent 2 bedroom apartment in center for 1.3k.. Remember, with 5/4 roster you work much less than other guys. Plenty of commuting options to be combined as whole RYR network available in uniform for... FREE!
During winter can get part time roster, then only every second block of 5 days need to be on base, so 5/13 is the roster. 10 days even in hotel will be 500-700 depending on how spoiled you are. They offer options, stability and recurrency. Any other operator does it this year??

It is low. A320 F/O is a responsible job with large training cost attached.

All Vienna landlords are super excited to rent for summertime only and have an empty flat for winter.

5/4 you work exactly the same as the other guys: 900 hrs plus SIM and trainings. Except harder as the duties are more densely packed. The benefit of 4 off-duty is well worth it but deffo it is not working less.
​​​​​​
Free commute, are not the tickets all 19.99 anyway? Jokes aside what happens if RYR cancels your commute trip to base. Honest question.

Living in a hotel on an 70 EUR/day budget with food, cleaning, ground transport sounds exciting. Don't fool yourselves, it is Petrzalka on that money if you actually understand why you work for a salary at all.

Two points from the Friday's webinar that came unexpected:
- unsolicited explanation how great their SOPs are, about the multiple added safety layers and ongoing consultations with Airbus. The nice Irish gentleman who is usually razor sharp and keeps a point started going on in circles.
- his presentation partner letting it loose and trying to convince people base nomadism is a great job benefit for young people without commitments, how great it would be to enjoy 5 bases in five years. :eek:

Freudian slips on 2 sore points?

Abra4 15th August 2022 08:37

Anyone have information about the sim assesment/techincal interview? Is it the same as for ryan?

Theholdingpoint 15th August 2022 08:45


Originally Posted by ihatemorningflights (Post 11278465)
Please correct me, but with the two attached picture if I calculate with 48% tax then salary would be somthing like 2800€ for FO (net). That is very low salary in Vienna. Do you have any info about taxation with Lauda?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0da0ec1263.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef3172a8a5.png

I get 46,8k € net at year 1, so 3,9k €/over 12 months or 3,6k €/over 13 months.

ihatemorningflights 15th August 2022 09:03


Originally Posted by Theholdingpoint (Post 11278640)
I get 46,8k € net at year 1, so 3,9k €/over 12 months or 3,6k €/over 13 months.

Thanks for the info. So there is not such thing as FO and Senior FO with higher salary, it only increases with years?

Theholdingpoint 15th August 2022 09:06

I have no idea, I don't work for Lauda. Those numbers are just what I get as after tax payment with the data you've provided.

RUDice 15th August 2022 11:00


Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 11278626)
It is low. A320 F/O is a responsible job with large training cost attached.

All Vienna landlords are super excited to rent for summertime only and have an empty flat for winter.

5/4 you work exactly the same as the other guys: 900 hrs plus SIM and trainings. Except harder as the duties are more densely packed. The benefit of 4 off-duty is well worth it but deffo it is not working less.
​​​​​​
Free commute, are not the tickets all 19.99 anyway? Jokes aside what happens if RYR cancels your commute trip to base. Honest question.

Living in a hotel on an 70 EUR/day budget with food, cleaning, ground transport sounds exciting. Don't fool yourselves, it is Petrzalka on that money if you actually understand why you work for a salary at all.

Two points from the Friday's webinar that came unexpected:
- unsolicited explanation how great their SOPs are, about the multiple added safety layers and ongoing consultations with Airbus. The nice Irish gentleman who is usually razor sharp and keeps a point started going on in circles.
- his presentation partner letting it loose and trying to convince people base nomadism is a great job benefit for young people without commitments, how great it would be to enjoy 5 bases in five years. :eek:

Freudian slips on 2 sore points?


Well, if you have this view already before getting a job, then cancel interview and leave that spot to someone else, who wants his logbook finally rolling..
No idea about cadets, but whenever I decide to leave, I can, permanent contract with all taxes paid. I doubt those 5k WZZ is exactly the same scheme.. They have 3 types of contracts, 5k could be that Swiss contract.
And by saying "work less" I mean DUTY TIME (spent in uniform) is not same BLOCK TIME! Yes, you may log 900 a year, or 90 a month, with around 140 duty hours same month. I used to have 200 duty hours per 100 block, as you noticed, it is 60 hour difference, or a week of 12 hours in the office. It is a HUGE difference. It is called productivity. And it is much higher than competitors, and that is due to short turnarounds, if you complain about that and rather go 1 hour standart, 5 bases with constant travels in between, go ahead, then tell me how terrible your life is!

FlightDetent 15th August 2022 11:59

No need to shout, bro. I am not comparing Lauda against Wizz, which might be a long needed improvement for many. Working for RYR from driving distance of one's home is as good as it gets in Europe.

I am comparing them against their own promises and perhaps how some people paint them. Also trying to understand what they are not saying.

Keep your enthusiasm, get on board and enjoy it. The stage is all yours.

ihatemorningflights 15th August 2022 12:10


Originally Posted by RUDice (Post 11278733)
Well, if you have this view already before getting a job, then cancel interview and leave that spot to someone else, who wants his logbook finally rolling..
No idea about cadets, but whenever I decide to leave, I can, permanent contract with all taxes paid. I doubt those 5k WZZ is exactly the same scheme.. They have 3 types of contracts, 5k could be that Swiss contract.
And by saying "work less" I mean DUTY TIME (spent in uniform) is not same BLOCK TIME! Yes, you may log 900 a year, or 90 a month, with around 140 duty hours same month. I used to have 200 duty hours per 100 block, as you noticed, it is 60 hour difference, or a week of 12 hours in the office. It is a HUGE difference. It is called productivity. And it is much higher than competitors, and that is due to short turnarounds, if you complain about that and rather go 1 hour standart, 5 bases with constant travels in between, go ahead, then tell me how terrible your life is!

Yes WIZZ is with swiss taxation, so thats why it is around 5000 €. Do you know how taxation works at Lauda? From 68k yearly what is avarage net you get?

I can agree with you about the advantage of short turnarounds and nice roster. At the and there is a huge difference how you fly that yearly 900h.

RUDice 16th August 2022 07:12


Originally Posted by ihatemorningflights (Post 11278786)
Yes WIZZ is with swiss taxation, so thats why it is around 5000 €. Do you know how taxation works at Lauda? From 68k yearly what is avarage net you get?

I can agree with you about the advantage of short turnarounds and nice roster. At the and there is a huge difference how you fly that yearly 900h.


That swiss tax is also sort of joke and check with your local tax authority if they are happy with that.
Roughly LDA taxes for VIE are same as everywhere else - 1/3 of the gross salary goes to government. So take that 60k x2/3 /12 =3.3 k on average should fall into account if will have those 800 hours.
So far income is more or less around this. And then there is 13th+14th basic salary in a year.

IFLYyouBREATH 16th August 2022 10:29

What is your average ATPL scores for those one called ?

Abra4 16th August 2022 13:43


Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH (Post 11279316)
What is your average ATPL scores for those one called ?


I don’t know mine exactly but more than 90% i am not sure if they are looking at the % or the retakes.

Gioinve99 17th August 2022 17:39

has anyone been called for the assessment as cadets ntr? thanks

Abra4 17th August 2022 18:23


Originally Posted by Gioinve99 (Post 11280235)
has anyone been called for the assessment as cadets ntr? thanks

I did the online assesment, got a positive result about a week ago but haven’t got a date for the sim assesment yet. Hope they will contact soon. Anyone else did the online assesment?

sponiv 17th August 2022 19:56

Hello,
does anyone know what to expect at DUB assesment regarding technical questions? Will they ask about airbus only or boeing as well? Thank you!!

Abra4 17th August 2022 20:03


Originally Posted by sponiv (Post 11280307)
Hello,
does anyone know what to expect at DUB assesment regarding technical questions? Will they ask about airbus only or boeing as well? Thank you!!

Hi i am curious about this too. Have you got a date already?

sponiv 17th August 2022 21:01


Originally Posted by Abra4 (Post 11280311)
Hi i am curious about this too. Have you got a date already?

yes, I have it in less than two weeks

Abra4 17th August 2022 21:04


Originally Posted by sponiv (Post 11280339)
yes, I have it in less than two weeks

Can i ask when did you do your online assesment?

sponiv 18th August 2022 18:55


Originally Posted by Abra4 (Post 11280342)
Can i ask when did you do your online assesment?

applied 22/07, got online assessment email on 02/08, did it on 08/08 (wanted earlier but had technical problems) and got DUB invitation 09/08

Cstefano99 19th August 2022 10:15

hi guys, I've just got invitation for online assesment with deadline around 26th august. I've also noticed that on the ryanair career website lauda cadets option is disappeared. Do you think they have already reach the full amount of candidate? I heard from a frined of mine that they are looking for approx 150 pilots. Anyone received new DUB assesment date?
thanks for Halping

limahotel 19th August 2022 16:32

NTR DEC interview
 
Has anyone applied for the NTR DEC position and received an invitation for the interview/online assessment?

Whispering Giant 20th August 2022 05:10

NTR DEC interview
 
I applied on the 12/08/22 and have still heard nothing from them.

Abra4 22nd August 2022 23:23

Hi,

just got the invitation to Dublin on the 15th September. Anyone else on that date? Also anyone has new information what is the assesment like?

Gioinve99 23rd August 2022 13:02

hi Abra4,

when did you apply? are you NTR?

SkyHawk6E 23rd August 2022 15:34

I applied as well, but haven't heard anything. for the fact that the vacancy has been pulled from their site does this mean that they already have enough pilots? or is it still possible to get the chance to be invited coming weeks? any info is appreciated, thanks :)

Abra4 23rd August 2022 17:16


Originally Posted by Gioinve99 (Post 11283699)
hi Abra4,

when did you apply? are you NTR?


Hey,

I applied on the 6th of august. Got the online assesment on 8th and after the positive result i got the sim invitation about 1.5 weeks.
I am NTR Cadet level.

i do not know what that means that they closed the application. I think it is still likely that they can invite the ones who already applied. Maybe they just have enough applications for now and that is why the got it off .


SkyHawk6E 23rd August 2022 19:09

damn you got to do everything quick! congrats!! and good luck on the sim :) keep us posted


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