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limahotel 26th February 2020 06:44

Air Belgium
 
Hi,

does anyone have any info on their latest recruitment drive, roster, pay? They were supposedly in big trouble a while ago. Have things changed?

austrian71 26th February 2020 07:24

Stay away !

limahotel 26th February 2020 08:04

Could you elaborate a bit?

Banana Joe 26th February 2020 08:49

I heard they are a decent company. They had a rough start due to a Chinese operator that did not respect the contract clauses and got out of the deal, but they are focusing on flights to the French Antilles at the moment. They also do ACMI on behalf of LOT out of Warsaw. I don't know if they are still flying for BA. The management is not new in aviation, they founded TNT in 1999, so they know what they are doing.

Not the best paid job in the industry, but if things keep going well for them, that can also improve in the future.

Icelanta 26th February 2020 09:01

Actually one of the better Belgian airlines to work for.
They have long-term ACMI contracts secured and their own operation to the Antilles is proving succesfull.

Pay is below-market due to Belgian taxes, but atmosphere is said to be excellent with Belgian Training Standards (meaning best in industry) and support from management.

limahotel 26th February 2020 09:10

Thank you all for the input. Any idea about the roster (commutable or not)?

IFLYyouBREATH 26th February 2020 12:11

Any guys attending assessment soon with Air Belgium?

Jonnyknoxville 26th February 2020 19:37

Despite several ads about for crew , I believe that all hiring is finished for the moment

Callsign Kilo 27th February 2020 22:00


Belgian Training Standards (meaning best in industry)
A/P, F/D and auto thrust off at top of descent ;)

spacemanspiff!!! 6th February 2021 18:58

Anybody some info on current terms and conditions? Thanks

Tebbit 6th February 2021 22:23

Icelanta

You mean manual flight everywhere but the cruise?

Climb150 7th February 2021 03:53

Are they hiring?

booze 12th February 2021 06:16

Pre-covid they were the lowest paying wide body operator.

Banana Joe 12th February 2021 07:46

Belgian taxes are high but if you can get a special tax regime as a professional coming to work in Belgium then you can get a nice expat package.
I personally am on one at another Belgian operator and I am quite happy.

Hard to beat those Belgian beers as well. Big plus!

Bus Driver Man 12th February 2021 13:12

booze

Gross or net?
High gross and low net salary is not really their fault, is it? But I’m very interested in the actual figures, including any extra benefits.

booze 12th February 2021 14:17

6-8k GROSS for skippers, depending on the amount of flying done. That is before covid...

gpsprimary01 7th March 2021 15:53

Hi everyone,

I've heard that Air Belgium will operate 4 A330 freighter . They've already received 2 A/C and planning to receive the other in summer. They also open the cockpit crew member position on their website.
Anyone know of they will start to hire pilots anytime soon?

thanks.

Coastrider26 15th December 2021 15:04

Does anyone know what the package would be like for a 748 captain Air Belgium?

LimaJuliet 25th May 2022 18:31

Does anyone know the ' roster of Air Belgium?' Is it commutable and is it stable? for example 20/10 or 5/4 ? Or is it totally random, and how many off days average do you have per month?

airbuske 19th September 2022 11:14

pretty random roster as I heard - 7 or 8 days off a month

slam_dunk 4th January 2023 15:04

Hi everybody, I'm looking at applying at Air Belgium on the 747-8 as a captain however i noticed that a lot of pilots (34) have left the company in the last year.
Can someone who (has worked there or) is working there give an update on working conditions?
Working schedule? positioning?
How is the daily operation?
Is there enough support from management?
How is OCC and Crewing operating?
Do you have enough support from them?
How the the simulator training?
Are you happy with your colleagues and their proficiency?
Are operations on A330 and B747-8 similar?
Last year there were rumours that the company was about to collapse, is there enough trust that the company will survive?
I recently noticed that Robert Denis, the fleetmanager 747, is leaving the company to be a Flight Ops Inspector at the BCAA. Is there a successor appointed?

Thanks if you are willing to answer my questions!

cefey 5th January 2023 16:56


Originally Posted by slam_dunk (Post 11359540)
Hi everybody, I'm looking at applying at Air Belgium on the 747-8 as a captain however i noticed that a lot of pilots (34) have left the company in the last year.
Can someone who (has worked there or) is working there give an update on working conditions?
Working schedule? positioning?
How is the daily operation?
Is there enough support from management?
How is OCC and Crewing operating?
Do you have enough support from them?
How the the simulator training?
Are you happy with your colleagues and their proficiency?
Are operations on A330 and B747-8 similar?
Last year there were rumours that the company was about to collapse, is there enough trust that the company will survive?
I recently noticed that Robert Denis, the fleetmanager 747, is leaving the company to be a Flight Ops Inspector at the BCAA. Is there a successor appointed?

Thanks if you are willing to answer my questions!

Hi mate!
I can share limited info I got:
Many pilots left for CMA-CGM for a better salary. Most of them were french guys returning home, so it does make sense.
The working schedule is random, depending on the fleet, experience, and company needs. You can expect between 2-3 and 7-8 days OFF between flights, so not bad.
OCC/Crewing is a challenge, just like every other company. That being said, there were some major changes in crewing recently and it is supposed to get much better.
All in all daily operation is smooth, with not many delays or issues. Of course, you might bump into issues in outstations, but that's part of being a pilot I guess.
According to rumours, 747 is very profitable, so should be safe´ish bet work-wise.
No idea about 747 vs 330. I would assume it is, I guess a lot depends on the contract/whom they are flying for. But (again, the assumption from my side, take it with a grain of salt!) Chinese own half of the company and they are deciding a lot about 747. So it supposed to be very stable. Once again, this is assumption.
There is good atmosphere within the crew and seems like quality on the crew is high.

There were rumours about AB going bust even before their first flight 4 years ago. AB did managed it well, did well during COVID and now they got some additional $$ from the investors (again, not insider info, but what can be found online).

Sorry for not being able to give you more concrete answers. I've recently joined the company and so far I like it a lot. Just like any other company it got its issues. Would I recommend it to a friend? Absolutely yes. So far I really enjoy my time in this company.
Downside, as you said yourself, its ICME with financial uncertainty. So if you plan to take your kids out of kindergarten, wife to quit her job, quit your stable job to move here - risky. If you don't have family/plan to commute as long as possible - might be really good option.

slam_dunk 24th January 2023 20:41

Thanks :ok: Much appreciated!

Porco_Rosso 20th June 2023 10:22

Hello, having the online interview for the FO 330 position in a few days, anyone has info about salary, roster traing etc, i can't find information anywhere. Thanks!

pajyg 3rd May 2024 18:01


Originally Posted by Porco_Rosso (Post 11453878)
Hello, having the online interview for the FO 330 position in a few days, anyone has info about salary, roster traing etc, i can't find information anywhere. Thanks!

Hi guys, does anyone know something about the simulator assessment on B737 ? Thank you so much for the feedback. 🙏🙏

guillegt 24th September 2024 00:14

my turn!
 

Originally Posted by Porco_Rosso (Post 11453878)
Hello, having the online interview for the FO 330 position in a few days, anyone has info about salary, roster traing etc, i can't find information anywhere. Thanks!

Hi Porco! I'm having an online interview in 2 days.

Any tips you can give me?

Appreciate it!

guillegt 24th September 2024 00:17

I also have an online interview soon, any advice on what to expect would be appreciated!

Thank you!

back to Boeing 24th September 2024 05:19

You are aware that the company is very likely to cease to exist in the not too distant future aren’t you?

https://traveltomorrow.com/air-belgi...uidation-sale/

ZAV 12th October 2024 08:53

Yes surprised people applying as most of their own crews looking to do a quick exit .The CEO has stepped down and the courts are governing this company and it’s creditors . Before applying would wait to see if they are rescued or not .


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