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Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 10257449)
Looks like the CAA is going to be busy for the next two and a half years.
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Originally Posted by BONES_
(Post 10257380)
The CAA will continue to issue and reissue pilots' licences ... this would include removing references to EASA - a purely cosmetic change None of this is at odds with or contradicts the brexit no-deal documents. Whether it contradicts the EASA notice to stakeholders or not depends on interpretation of that notice (EASA may view the references on the physical certificate/licence as non-cosmetic, and invalidating, if the UK leaves EASA - compare CAA & EASA statements on aerodrome certificates). The CAA statements and documents, however, look to me to be entirely self consistent. |
So if Brexit does occur and there is no agreement between UK CAA and EASA. Would that mean the UK CAA will commence reissuing The UK ATPL??
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This may be a stupid question, but (other than bloody-mindedness) why cannot the UK continue to be part of EASA - there are already non-EU (albeit EFTA) member countries?
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Originally Posted by Cyberhacker
(Post 10258583)
This may be a stupid question, but (other than bloody-mindedness) why cannot the UK continue to be part of EASA - there are already non-EU (albeit EFTA) member countries?
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Because EASA have been instructed by the EC not to assist the UK by accepting its application to join as a non-EU State until the UK actually is a non-EU State.
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Originally Posted by liider
(Post 10258685)
Because UK wants to get rid of European Court of Justice jurisdiction, and then it would be impossible to be a part of EASA.
Yes it is arguably a fudge of the UK "red line", but in reality almost every similar international agreement has some form of supranational tribunal of some sort. |
Originally Posted by infrequentflyer789
(Post 10258726)
Not true - other non-EU states are already in EASA without direct ECJ jurisdiction, and the UK has already said it is OK with indirect ECJ jurisdiction in cases like EASA.
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Just reading about the UK wanting to finally close the borders to EU citizens in 3 years time..brace for impact Ahahhah |
Originally Posted by infrequentflyer789
(Post 10258726)
Not true - other non-EU states are already in EASA without direct ECJ jurisdiction, and the UK has already said it is OK with indirect ECJ jurisdiction in cases like EASA.
Yes it is arguably a fudge of the UK "red line", but in reality almost every similar international agreement has some form of supranational tribunal of some sort. |
Originally Posted by liider
(Post 10258910)
There is no such thing as "indirect jurisdiction", this is just what UK government is trying to invent. You either stay, follow and abide or lose all privileges and play on your own.
Norway and Switzerland have joint committees to allow that jurisdiction to operate indirectly, but it still exists. Note that the Swiss have similar opinions to UK wrt. ECJ, and the current EU-Swiss treaty negotiations have reached impasse on precisely the issue of the Swiss accepting direct ECJ jurisdiction (spoiler: they won't). |
Even many lawyers have an opinion that "direct" and so-called "indirect" jurisdiction is technically the same. In case of Brexit, it's just an attempt to somehow show (or cheat?) to Brits that UK could have an option to choose, if they want ECJ to make decisions in one specific area, but not in some other.
But it's just an illusion, you should know that it's impasse from the EU side. |
Find update on the subject : :info.caa.co.uk/eu-exit/commercial-pilots/
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I'm currently doing ATPL Theory with the UK CAA, do you think that the theory credits will still be valid after 28th March (assuming we exit EASA) towards a UK CAA CPL/IR?
Considering changing SOLI over to IAA and potentially registering to do the EASA exams with AustroControl (Bristol Ground School have set up an AustroControl exam centre at their HQ) |
Anyone noticed the UK CAA issued a new ''official'' form called SRG 2150 since October 18? Regarding license transfer from UK to another EASA member state. I am in the process of changing my license to another EU country. Seems this form is there to make it more difficult and longer to get your application through. Since it now says on the CAA website you need to provide this form, before they can issue a DOC 155. Due to GDPR.... yeah right...
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Looking at the Irish CAA fees schedule, and considering the following:
* Transfer of my UK CPL to IAA costs €450 according to the IAA fees schedule. * I have recently renewed my SEP and IR. I have sent the paperwork to the UK CAA but a new UK licence may or may not be issued before the IAA get around to processing my paperwork. If it does go through in time, I'll have to pay €300.- or €600.- when I renew my MEP. * If it doesn't go through in time, somehow I'll have to apply for renewal of my ratings separately, at €300.- each. In summary, am I really looking at a bill of €750 to €1350 from the IAA for the "privilege" of transferring my licence? :ooh: |
That’s cheap compared to other EASA states like Austria... |
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Originally Posted by McMax
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That’s cheap compared to other EASA states like Austria... Available from http://www.austrocontrol.at/en/pilot...nses/licensing |
Originally Posted by delarue
(Post 10382075)
As far as I can ascertain, Austria is marginally cheaper. See the attached fee schedule.
Available from http://www.austrocontrol.at/en/pilot...nses/licensing So if you renew your license having 4 or 5 ratings on it, it get‘s quite expensive I‘d say. But overall it‘s not too bad, you‘re right. |
Hi All,
I've just returned from a long time in the Middle East and due to flying on a foreign licence did not transfer my UK EASA ATPL to another state. I completed am a LPC on the UK licence to get me back up to speed and then late yesterday i was unexpectedly offered a position on a European registered aircraft... I wonder if anyone knows if I can still complete the transfer to an IAA licence. I believe the company is willing to wait so the delay should not be a massive problem but I wonder if anyone else has started the transfer this late in the game and if so what the CAA have advised. I intend to speak to them on Monday anyway (although I'm not sure how much info they will be able to provide) but thought I would ask here over the weekend to gather anyone else's experience. Many thanks in advance |
Hi,
As far as I know, you can still transfer, why not? You can do this until Friday 29/3. The problem is that the CAA is overwhelmed with the requests, and it takes longer than usual for them. Hence they will transfer to the IAA. However, not in time as to continue flying in April, but likely a few weeks later. All this in case of no-deal or no interim EASA agreement, talk about a few months of grace period is on the way. Let as know about what you are told on Monday... Cheers |
Does anyone know how long it will take to do a medical SOLI transfer from the UK CAA? I am in urgent need of my records to be transferred to Lithuania for license issue
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite
(Post 10420460)
Does anyone know how long it will take to do a medical SOLI transfer from the UK CAA? I am in urgent need of my records to be transferred to Lithuania for license issue
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Basically, not by 29th March.
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oh dear, is there any express service for a higher price? my CPL, and all MEP and SEP skill test ratings will expire if i have to wait that long :yuk:
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Nope. It seems you should have acted earlier given the British gov't hasn't known what they are up to for a long time... And the thing is, will your license be recognised after 29th March? I haven't really followed the whole thing but in case of a no deal Brexit you are caught with your pants down.
I know of a very experienced expat in Asia that probably will have to re-sit ATPL exams after many years due to this. |
Originally Posted by Banana Joe
(Post 10421173)
Nope. It seems you should have acted earlier given the British gov't hasn't known what they are up to for a long time... And the thing is, will your license be recognised after 29th March? I haven't really followed the whole thing but in case of a no deal Brexit you are caught with your pants down.
I know of a very experienced expat in Asia that probably will have to re-sit ATPL exams after many years due to this. i don't have any flying license yet to be recognised/unrecognised (only LT CAA skill test pass forms), the desired transfer only concerns my medical records. I have proposed to do away with all my UK attachments in this regard and just redo the initial from scratch but the LT CAA seem to say it doesn't work that way. Hopefully if the uk leave EASA the uk initial becomes meaningless to Lithuania and they will then allow me to redo an initial in Lithuania and it can all be solved in 2 days that way. |
Morning everyone, The UK CAA has informed me a few days ago that they have released the required paperwork for licence transfer (doc 155) and the SOLI. I wonder how long the IAA will take to issue my license but do you guys reckon that I can breath a sigh of relief now? I am guessing that since the IAA has got all the paperwork it should not matter anymore whether they will issue my license before or after Brexit. |
Does somebody have any clue about my query? Cheers. |
Last time I was chatting to them they had 900 SOLI applications. This will rise to over 1,000 soon.
Hold tight. They'll get through it soon. |
I know fellows at the airline I work for that started paperwork with the UK CAA on February 18th, and they already hold their new ly issued license from their chosen NAA. That's less than 4 weeks total time...
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Originally Posted by fdgolf
(Post 10424134)
I know fellows at the airline I work for that started paperwork with the UK CAA on February 18th, and they already hold their new ly issued license from their chosen NAA. That's less than 4 weeks total time...
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The UK CAA were really quick (just a few days) with getting ready to action my SOLI medical records release over to the IAA (whom will become my new NAA of choice).
Unfortunately however the IAA are taking an age in processing the transfer from their side, to the extent that the UK CAA phoned me (three days ago) and made the point that they are still waiting for the IAA to contact them for transfer of my medical record. To try and find out if the IAA have got my application paperwork (which I sent as 'recorded mail' to them, and of which I've been able to track that it was indeed delivered) I tried calling the IAA but no one would answer the phone. I've also emailed them and had no reply. One can well imagine that they're snowed under with SOLI applications. |
I transferred away from UK to Irish CAA. Started in January and Irish sent me my license in mid Feb.
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I managed to get the documents sent by the UK CAA after applying mid-way January just about a week or so ago to the Dutch CAA. They don’t seem to be too snowed under, if I call them I always get to speak to a real person. Things seem to move pretty quickly there. Just waiting now for the actual issue of the licence, but if the Irish are too busy and you’re in a tight spot, consider some other countries that might be easy to deal with. Also, as long as your application is in before the end of March the Dutch guarantee to issue you a licence regardless of what happens with Brexit providing your documentation is in order. They came up with that as it seemed a lot of people were going to get stuck over on the British side of things despite applying months in advance with a valid and current EASA document. Best of luck with this crapshoot! |
There was no reason to panic, I applied for the SOLI on Monday 18th March and it was completed by Thursday 21st March lunctime!! The UK CAA are on top of things now again
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So, leave it to the very last minute was the best. :rolleyes:
Those of us namby-pambys frightened into applying in good time had to wait, well in my case anyhow, more than 2 mths. :ugh: |
My SOLI was sent 22th of Feb. But IAA licensing is telling me they are still waitting for my medical :0!! :D Just resent it. But I am a bit worried it is impossible to get through to IAA Medical. They dont respond to emails, voicemails, phone calls.
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anyone had a partial state change?
my license transferred, but my medical is still with UK caa. now they are asking for all the re-validation medical reports in English, (german ame). I asked if they want a notarised translation or if i can just copy the results onto an english form, but they wouldnt say. any one in the same boat? and what business is it to them, just transfer my !!!! |
Originally Posted by Aeroshizzle
(Post 10436769)
and what business is it to them, just transfer my !!!!
Or so I have been explained.. |
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