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mindaugenius 15th January 2023 11:23

has the video been made public?

latecoere240 28th January 2023 10:22


Originally Posted by mindaugenius (Post 11366715)
has the video been made public?

as far as I know, no.. but the video went around the company.
as far as I understood they are working on Option 4 as they cannot stop exodus of pilots there…

semmern 28th January 2023 20:10

Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?

FlightDetent 28th January 2023 23:18


Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero (Post 11375892)
The CEO himself is now posting job ads on LinkedIn, shows how desperate things have become. A pay rise in excess of 25% is on the card for most captains.

I keep wondering why they arrange so differently than AvEx, despite doing pretty much the same business whichever side you look at it. The latter posted an ad the last week with 5000 EUR basic for their winter contract. Unheard of, but obviously necessary if they like to retain folks who actually could go somewhere up the ladder.

Popcorn out to see what that new offer is. Prepared to be underwhelmed though.

uberfly 29th January 2023 08:58


Originally Posted by semmern (Post 11375967)
Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?

Suppose to be for SAS.

uberfly 29th January 2023 09:20

At the end it is combination of money and treatment of pilot received. If you ask me latter is a bigger problem. But management is so out of their mind that they even claimed hotel and transportation provided as a benefit and they were adding cost of hotel and travel to their yearly net fee calculation to prove they pay good to pilots. It is just ridiculous. They tried about lower salaries this year and actually it worked. They started the negotiations so low that later when they make some improvements people psychologically thought oh they are offering better. Offer might look better on paper but another problem is this money they offer just before income tax and social premiums (retirement funds) paid. Obviously many of the pilots do not pay either. Maybe it is ok for older Captains but i cant imagine young FO is not contributing its retirement.


lleidapilot 29th January 2023 13:17

hey guys, whats the quality of training in slx and it's reputation at other airlines. Do ex-slx pilots get discriminated against at job applications for other airlines, despite fulfilling the hour requirements? (possibly due to poor training or poor SOPs)
like for example if 2 a320 rated FO's apply with 3000tt to EK , one from vueling and one from slx , would the vueling guy be preferred due to it's brand and reputation over slx?

Scagrams 29th January 2023 15:09

Know of few guys who got job in AF, EZY and EK from Slx recently. I myself used to work for them and after 1.5 years in a national carrier in Central Asia, now got a job for the French flag carrier.
At the end of the day, it is more about personal investment and standards rather than what's on your CV which is evaluated, imo

MD83FO 1st April 2023 11:18

What do you guys recommend among
AvEx vs Slx?

CW247 2nd April 2023 19:34

Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.

latecoere240 7th April 2023 05:53

Currently Avion express looks better than Smartlynx. With SLX expect to experience the Nigeria nightmare operation for Air Peace with peanuts income in Lagos during winter.

andorra2004 7th April 2023 10:15

Don't forget
 
Don't forget the way they mock staff, offering improvements like more off days and rostering sims and exams after those. Or that they proclaim the travel as a perk, and pilots "enjoy" 20 hours travels for 500 km journeys. It's other example of their idea of better terms.

MD83FO 7th April 2023 22:51

So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?

WhatShortage 8th April 2023 04:47


Originally Posted by CW247 (Post 11413599)
Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.

Quite clear you don't know much about avex, literally the smallest operation is in America.

andorra2004 11th April 2023 10:02


Originally Posted by MD83FO (Post 11416534)
So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?

Not at all. They keep changing contracts more and more, but in the end they only reduced the money for the FOs and increased for the captains. And they offered as an improvement more days at home, but, they send home the staff in very long journeys (to save very little money), using all kind of transports (bus, train, planes...) and then they roster activities after that are not compatible with rest time. They seem to not be aware of the luggage that it is required with so long stays at bases because they make that kind of arrangements (multiple changes of vehicles). That-s just an example of how the company is improving the terms.

uberfly 18th April 2023 08:56

They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?

Consol 18th April 2023 22:22


Originally Posted by uberfly (Post 11421707)
They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?

Friend, I'm coming close to retirement so don't think I'm harsh but some people who are a bit unlucky or maybe at the bottom of the skills set will do anything to fly. They will fill the jobs. Many will use the opportunity to improve themselves and that is great but some will sit there not gaining much skill, not being touched by any decent airline and a hazard if they are. I have seen it firsthand. Apologies to those of you who just yearn to fly but that is the reality. There is a disease at the heart of our industry. Fly safe.

SnowPilot 13th July 2023 16:51

Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?

*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit

uberfly 15th July 2023 08:32


Originally Posted by SnowPilot (Post 11466838)
Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?

*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit

High season (7 months between April-October) no UPL. Low season (November-March) they could assign you up to 90 days UPL. So you will not be paid during this period. Unless they assign you to work during low season you might end up having less UPL, or volunteer to go Nigeria. But for sure you will get some UPLs.

uberfly 26th December 2023 13:10

For a while no message in the group. How is the prospect for the future? Has things improved comparing to 2022 (in terms of treatment to the pilots but not money)? If you happen to join now can you pre-agreed some bases to secure it if you live close by on this base? I heard it was the case in the past that they were sending away a German pilots who is living in Nuremberg while they were having Nuremberg base or Belgian guy living in Belgium out of Brussels base? Is that still the case or they started to make more logical choice in terms of base selection?


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