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Enough is enough
It has to stop. It most stop!
Why is the CP flying so much? 3? 4 flights per month? It's all because of the money right? Flying pays better than office days right? Meanwhile all of us, we are flying only once every what? 60? 70 days? Yes, once every 2 months. All rosters are being manipulated before published. Look at his Belgium deputy as well. It's enough!! |
Very bad here guys. Don't come unless you are very desperate. No need to be desperate now. Covid over. Lots of jobs. Do you a favour and don't take this one from these con men.
Bad safety. Bad company. Bad attitude. Take money from pilot for no reeson. Training very bad. Italian mafia big problem for pilot unless you are friend of right man. Bad news company. Leave alone. |
As usual, critisism is easy behind a computer with a nickname... For those of you who are whining because it's an illegal contract or whatever, nobody forced you to sign and my guess is, you didn't read everything or maybe you don't know what a contract is... Nothing illegal here. |
Originally Posted by Rub3ns
(Post 11342410)
Terms and conditions have changed. For those who are interested, feel free to ask if you have any questions. It's not that bad for a first job.
As usual, critisism is easy behind a computer with a nickname... For those of you who are whining because it's an illegal contract or whatever, nobody forced you to sign and my guess is, you didn't read everything or maybe you don't know what a contract is... Nothing illegal here. Hello management dog. First job NO. Bad training. This is last stop to get job. 50E per day line training plus it is taking months and months. Company take money away from pilot if they ask for time off and do not give 20/10. Smartlynx have big big problem now lots of other jobs available. No pilots next summer unless BIG changes to contracts. But all ok in office because they have big 1990's party. Pilots not ok. |
320 PIC offer via inbred AvCV:
- 15 days at home / month contract. Just arrived, no more details. I'd incline to agree that companies only do the right thing when desperate. |
It would be interesting to know the rate on offer...
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That's the thing. Nobody is complaining, so no one is doing anything.
On the A330 only a small group of friends will fly. Everyone else is only getting current with a flight or simulator scheduled at last minute. Inflation is high but Smartlynx doesn't care. No change on the T&C, shameful. Flying standards are dropping faster than you can imagine. English captain diverting to a small airport, costs to company are huge. German captains unnecessarily returning back. Cost to company, huge. Italian Captains flying across the Atlantic in a different route than cleared. No direct costs but could have created a major air crash. A330 is dangerously flying in Smartlynx, poorly paid, a friends club, so please listen carefully and don't join. This is an Airline to be in between jobs, and not more than that. CP is allowing everyone to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't come back to him. Training Manager, I don't even know, do we really have one? Think wisely before applying. I would be in favor of a strike, or help some tax authorities have a closer look to our contracts. Allowing this to continue as it is? Not an option! |
A330 pilots cowardly left A320 and B737 pilots standing alone fighting for better conditions.
It's really sad to see that every pilot on the fleet is signing a contract renewal scared of losing their job. Let's see how this will end up. |
Warning to pilots thinking of joining. There is WhatsApp Group of around 300 pilots. Around 150 agreed not to sign the new contract (deadline today for most). Of those, so far about 70 have committed and followed through (so far). So already 25-30% of the pilot workforce has told company they will not sign new contract. That has taken balls and shows you how bad situation is here. The contracts should be better but management are making them worse for 2023.
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SmartLynx send out new contracts and say sign or you have no job at 31 December. In 2 weeks time they lose over 50% of pilots.
Company say will give better conditions but now they give 2023 contract and pay is less. Old. 260 a day. 15 per hour for flight. New. 220 a day in summer and only 165 a day in winter for Captain. 30 per hour for flight. This company very very bad. Like run by Russian mafia now. |
Hopefully soon on the pressure of Russia and the scandals that are starting to surface artificially enlarged Europe will crumble and these eastern european post communist ruthless neo capitalist ****ers and their western financial accomplices will disappear and even more hopefully go back under Russian rule to get disciplined in Siberia.
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A330 cp must resign or be fired.
Please, let me tell you once again.
I have told you so and I have warned you before not to come here. Last week a 2 man crew have poorly performed a 16 hours FDP and cleared by the CP to do the flight even though they already new that they would exceed everything. So why is the CP still holding to his position? We have just suffered a major financial blow losing our contract with a German operator. And It's all because of the CP and his buddies. Mate, like you love to call us all, how could you authorize a crew to fly out of base extending the FDP? Not only that but even way more serious, they have exceeded all possible FDP and extensions. A 16 hours FDP? What? Let's say it all again, a 16 hours FDP? That's crazy! Mate, please just resign and don't hold on to your position, just do yourself a favor and resign. Think that If you don't resign the people above you will ask you to do it. Don't embarrass yourself even more. And even if they don't do what is right to do, what do you think that the German authorizes or the Maltese authorities are going to do? They are coming after you. There must be consequences, you must resign and the crew that has done that, should follow you. By the way, Cabin crew didn't all agree to continue the flight. The event should be further investigated and you and that crew? You should all leave. Waiting for the next chapter. Dumblynx |
Where is this clown CP coming from? I´ve seen this type of dumb "mate" behavior from management types before. They usually don´t last long. Sure sounds like this clown won´t either! I hope not anyways!
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The management with their soviet mentality will ruin this company forever. Incredible greed on display with the latest pay package. These !!!!ty Latvian/Estonian/Lithuanian companies have finally met the challenge they deserve. They usually rely on cheap labor to make a profit. Not possible any more due to so many company's hiring. Only desperate pilots will stay here passed May 2023. The good pilots all have job offers or several interviews planned already. 2023 will be the year dumblynx have to either double the salary or scale back operations.
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero
(Post 11362663)
The management with their soviet mentality will ruin this company forever. Incredible greed on display with the latest pay package. These !!!!ty Latvian/Estonian/Lithuanian companies have finally met the challenge they deserve. They usually rely on cheap labor to make a profit. Not possible any more due to so many company's hiring. Only desperate pilots will stay here passed May 2023. The good pilots all have job offers or several interviews planned already. 2023 will be the year dumblynx have to either double the salary or scale back operations.
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Originally Posted by Dumblynx
(Post 11362336)
Please, let me tell you once again.
I have told you so and I have warned you before not to come here. Last week a 2 man crew have poorly performed a 16 hours FDP and cleared by the CP to do the flight even though they already new that they would exceed everything. So why is the CP still holding to his position? We have just suffered a major financial blow losing our contract with a German operator. And It's all because of the CP and his buddies. Mate, like you love to call us all, how could you authorize a crew to fly out of base extending the FDP? Not only that but even way more serious, they have exceeded all possible FDP and extensions. A 16 hours FDP? What? Let's say it all again, a 16 hours FDP? That's crazy! Mate, please just resign and don't hold on to your position, just do yourself a favor and resign. Think that If you don't resign the people above you will ask you to do it. Don't embarrass yourself even more. And even if they don't do what is right to do, what do you think that the German authorizes or the Maltese authorities are going to do? They are coming after you. There must be consequences, you must resign and the crew that has done that, should follow you. By the way, Cabin crew didn't all agree to continue the flight. The event should be further investigated and you and that crew? You should all leave. Waiting for the next chapter. Dumblynx Condor throws out Smart Lynx A330 after complaints |
Condor customers demand a high quality product, I don't know how this !!!!show lasted so long.
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Originally Posted by uberfly
(Post 11363499)
Well said and correct. Regarding to other issues, company is dangerous. They operate close to limit in every aspect. About FDP's and technical status of their fleet. Incredible pressure from each department to pilots that try to force them to take inadequate decisions. All pilots and cabin crew scared to be fired if they do not extend their duty or do not accept the aircraft due to technical conditions. It is fear culture.
A lot of crews are leaving.. They want to pay you less and less.. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ae2ba689b.png here it’s what you can expect from them with their bulls..t conditions.. With inflation they dare to pay you less than before and of course their number is completely not real.. no basic monthly fee. With their new VP production ( before VP operation) they had the good idea to decrease the duty day allowance and slightly increase the flight allowance in order to increase productivity and pay you less.. |
Originally Posted by latecoere240
(Post 11364640)
There is a video showing the CEO what he is thinking about his customers.. Telling during a celebration that they will lick SLX ass it’s a bit too much.. If he has no consideration for the customers don’t expect much for their employees..
A lot of crews are leaving.. They want to pay you less and less.. |
Originally Posted by RNP_AR_APCH
(Post 11364676)
You mean the video where zygimantas is drunk and talk busll!!!! about even hois own employees ? :ugh:
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has the video been made public?
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Originally Posted by mindaugenius
(Post 11366715)
has the video been made public?
as far as I understood they are working on Option 4 as they cannot stop exodus of pilots there… |
Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero
(Post 11375892)
The CEO himself is now posting job ads on LinkedIn, shows how desperate things have become. A pay rise in excess of 25% is on the card for most captains.
Popcorn out to see what that new offer is. Prepared to be underwhelmed though. |
Originally Posted by semmern
(Post 11375967)
Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?
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At the end it is combination of money and treatment of pilot received. If you ask me latter is a bigger problem. But management is so out of their mind that they even claimed hotel and transportation provided as a benefit and they were adding cost of hotel and travel to their yearly net fee calculation to prove they pay good to pilots. It is just ridiculous. They tried about lower salaries this year and actually it worked. They started the negotiations so low that later when they make some improvements people psychologically thought oh they are offering better. Offer might look better on paper but another problem is this money they offer just before income tax and social premiums (retirement funds) paid. Obviously many of the pilots do not pay either. Maybe it is ok for older Captains but i cant imagine young FO is not contributing its retirement.
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hey guys, whats the quality of training in slx and it's reputation at other airlines. Do ex-slx pilots get discriminated against at job applications for other airlines, despite fulfilling the hour requirements? (possibly due to poor training or poor SOPs)
like for example if 2 a320 rated FO's apply with 3000tt to EK , one from vueling and one from slx , would the vueling guy be preferred due to it's brand and reputation over slx? |
Know of few guys who got job in AF, EZY and EK from Slx recently. I myself used to work for them and after 1.5 years in a national carrier in Central Asia, now got a job for the French flag carrier.
At the end of the day, it is more about personal investment and standards rather than what's on your CV which is evaluated, imo |
What do you guys recommend among
AvEx vs Slx? |
Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.
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Currently Avion express looks better than Smartlynx. With SLX expect to experience the Nigeria nightmare operation for Air Peace with peanuts income in Lagos during winter.
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Don't forget
Don't forget the way they mock staff, offering improvements like more off days and rostering sims and exams after those. Or that they proclaim the travel as a perk, and pilots "enjoy" 20 hours travels for 500 km journeys. It's other example of their idea of better terms.
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So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?
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Originally Posted by CW247
(Post 11413599)
Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.
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Originally Posted by MD83FO
(Post 11416534)
So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?
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They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?
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Originally Posted by uberfly
(Post 11421707)
They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?
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Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?
*UPL limit per calendar year (UPL days, reflected as part of consecutive days free from duty 1.13 do not count towards the limit |
Originally Posted by SnowPilot
(Post 11466838)
Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?
*UPL limit per calendar year (UPL days, reflected as part of consecutive days free from duty 1.13 do not count towards the limit |
For a while no message in the group. How is the prospect for the future? Has things improved comparing to 2022 (in terms of treatment to the pilots but not money)? If you happen to join now can you pre-agreed some bases to secure it if you live close by on this base? I heard it was the case in the past that they were sending away a German pilots who is living in Nuremberg while they were having Nuremberg base or Belgian guy living in Belgium out of Brussels base? Is that still the case or they started to make more logical choice in terms of base selection?
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