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Dumblynx 8th November 2022 20:19

Enough is enough
 
It has to stop. It most stop!

Why is the CP flying so much? 3? 4 flights per month?
It's all because of the money right? Flying pays better than office days right?
Meanwhile all of us, we are flying only once every what? 60? 70 days? Yes, once every 2 months. All rosters are being manipulated before published. Look at his Belgium deputy as well.
It's enough!!

SLX666 4th December 2022 17:22

Very bad here guys. Don't come unless you are very desperate. No need to be desperate now. Covid over. Lots of jobs. Do you a favour and don't take this one from these con men.

Bad safety. Bad company. Bad attitude. Take money from pilot for no reeson.

Training very bad. Italian mafia big problem for pilot unless you are friend of right man.

Bad news company. Leave alone.

RudderTrimZero 4th December 2022 22:10


As usual, critisism is easy behind a computer with a nickname...
Why don't you post on the internal WhatsApp groups telling everyone the contracts are good?


For those of you who are whining because it's an illegal contract or whatever, nobody forced you to sign and my guess is, you didn't read everything or maybe you don't know what a contract is... Nothing illegal here.
You just started the TR, wait till they abuse the !!!! out of you over next summer, then we'll see!

SLX666 5th December 2022 05:04


Originally Posted by Rub3ns (Post 11342410)
Terms and conditions have changed. For those who are interested, feel free to ask if you have any questions. It's not that bad for a first job.

As usual, critisism is easy behind a computer with a nickname...

For those of you who are whining because it's an illegal contract or whatever, nobody forced you to sign and my guess is, you didn't read everything or maybe you don't know what a contract is... Nothing illegal here.


Hello management dog.

First job NO. Bad training. This is last stop to get job. 50E per day line training plus it is taking months and months.

Company take money away from pilot if they ask for time off and do not give 20/10.

Smartlynx have big big problem now lots of other jobs available. No pilots next summer unless BIG changes to contracts.

But all ok in office because they have big 1990's party. Pilots not ok.




FlightDetent 6th December 2022 00:25

320 PIC offer via inbred AvCV:
- 15 days at home / month contract.

Just arrived, no more details.

I'd incline to agree that companies only do the right thing when desperate.

FlyHigher 6th December 2022 11:25

It would be interesting to know the rate on offer...

Dumblynx 7th December 2022 12:25

That's the thing. Nobody is complaining, so no one is doing anything.
On the A330 only a small group of friends will fly. Everyone else is only getting current with a flight or simulator scheduled at last minute.
Inflation is high but Smartlynx doesn't care. No change on the T&C, shameful.
Flying standards are dropping faster than you can imagine. English captain diverting to a small airport, costs to company are huge. German captains unnecessarily returning back. Cost to company, huge. Italian Captains flying across the Atlantic in a different route than cleared. No direct costs but could have created a major air crash.
A330 is dangerously flying in Smartlynx, poorly paid, a friends club, so please listen carefully and don't join.
This is an Airline to be in between jobs, and not more than that.
CP is allowing everyone to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't come back to him. Training Manager, I don't even know, do we really have one?
Think wisely before applying. I would be in favor of a strike, or help some tax authorities have a closer look to our contracts. Allowing this to continue as it is? Not an option!

Dumblynx 11th December 2022 09:14

A330 pilots cowardly left A320 and B737 pilots standing alone fighting for better conditions.
It's really sad to see that every pilot on the fleet is signing a contract renewal scared of losing their job.
Let's see how this will end up.

RudderTrimZero 12th December 2022 08:21

Warning to pilots thinking of joining. There is WhatsApp Group of around 300 pilots. Around 150 agreed not to sign the new contract (deadline today for most). Of those, so far about 70 have committed and followed through (so far). So already 25-30% of the pilot workforce has told company they will not sign new contract. That has taken balls and shows you how bad situation is here. The contracts should be better but management are making them worse for 2023.

SLX666 18th December 2022 09:11

SmartLynx send out new contracts and say sign or you have no job at 31 December. In 2 weeks time they lose over 50% of pilots.

Company say will give better conditions but now they give 2023 contract and pay is less.

Old. 260 a day. 15 per hour for flight.

New. 220 a day in summer and only 165 a day in winter for Captain. 30 per hour for flight.

This company very very bad. Like run by Russian mafia now.

furbpilot 18th December 2022 13:19

Hopefully soon on the pressure of Russia and the scandals that are starting to surface artificially enlarged Europe will crumble and these eastern european post communist ruthless neo capitalist ****ers and their western financial accomplices will disappear and even more hopefully go back under Russian rule to get disciplined in Siberia.

Dumblynx 8th January 2023 20:07

A330 cp must resign or be fired.
 
Please, let me tell you once again.
I have told you so and I have warned you before not to come here.
Last week a 2 man crew have poorly performed a 16 hours FDP and cleared by the CP to do the flight even though they already new that they would exceed everything.
So why is the CP still holding to his position? We have just suffered a major financial blow losing our contract with a German operator. And It's all because of the CP and his buddies.
Mate, like you love to call us all, how could you authorize a crew to fly out of base extending the FDP? Not only that but even way more serious, they have exceeded all possible FDP and extensions. A 16 hours FDP? What? Let's say it all again, a 16 hours FDP? That's crazy!
Mate, please just resign and don't hold on to your position, just do yourself a favor and resign. Think that If you don't resign the people above you will ask you to do it. Don't embarrass yourself even more.
And even if they don't do what is right to do, what do you think that the German authorizes or the Maltese authorities are going to do? They are coming after you.
There must be consequences, you must resign and the crew that has done that, should follow you. By the way, Cabin crew didn't all agree to continue the flight. The event should be further investigated and you and that crew? You should all leave.
Waiting for the next chapter.

Dumblynx

Klimax 8th January 2023 20:33

Where is this clown CP coming from? I´ve seen this type of dumb "mate" behavior from management types before. They usually don´t last long. Sure sounds like this clown won´t either! I hope not anyways!

RudderTrimZero 9th January 2023 10:42

The management with their soviet mentality will ruin this company forever. Incredible greed on display with the latest pay package. These !!!!ty Latvian/Estonian/Lithuanian companies have finally met the challenge they deserve. They usually rely on cheap labor to make a profit. Not possible any more due to so many company's hiring. Only desperate pilots will stay here passed May 2023. The good pilots all have job offers or several interviews planned already. 2023 will be the year dumblynx have to either double the salary or scale back operations.

uberfly 10th January 2023 16:14


Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero (Post 11362663)
The management with their soviet mentality will ruin this company forever. Incredible greed on display with the latest pay package. These !!!!ty Latvian/Estonian/Lithuanian companies have finally met the challenge they deserve. They usually rely on cheap labor to make a profit. Not possible any more due to so many company's hiring. Only desperate pilots will stay here passed May 2023. The good pilots all have job offers or several interviews planned already. 2023 will be the year dumblynx have to either double the salary or scale back operations.

Well said and correct. Regarding to other issues, company is dangerous. They operate close to limit in every aspect. About FDP's and technical status of their fleet. Incredible pressure from each department to pilots that try to force them to take inadequate decisions. All pilots and cabin crew scared to be fired if they do not extend their duty or do not accept the aircraft due to technical conditions. It is fear culture.

TheEdge 11th January 2023 06:47


Originally Posted by Dumblynx (Post 11362336)
Please, let me tell you once again.
I have told you so and I have warned you before not to come here.
Last week a 2 man crew have poorly performed a 16 hours FDP and cleared by the CP to do the flight even though they already new that they would exceed everything.
So why is the CP still holding to his position? We have just suffered a major financial blow losing our contract with a German operator. And It's all because of the CP and his buddies.
Mate, like you love to call us all, how could you authorize a crew to fly out of base extending the FDP? Not only that but even way more serious, they have exceeded all possible FDP and extensions. A 16 hours FDP? What? Let's say it all again, a 16 hours FDP? That's crazy!
Mate, please just resign and don't hold on to your position, just do yourself a favor and resign. Think that If you don't resign the people above you will ask you to do it. Don't embarrass yourself even more.
And even if they don't do what is right to do, what do you think that the German authorizes or the Maltese authorities are going to do? They are coming after you.
There must be consequences, you must resign and the crew that has done that, should follow you. By the way, Cabin crew didn't all agree to continue the flight. The event should be further investigated and you and that crew? You should all leave.
Waiting for the next chapter.

Dumblynx

Well dumblynx just lost the contract with Condor in Punta Cana on the A330 :)

Condor throws out Smart Lynx A330 after complaints


RudderTrimZero 11th January 2023 09:35

Condor customers demand a high quality product, I don't know how this !!!!show lasted so long.

latecoere240 12th January 2023 05:37


Originally Posted by uberfly (Post 11363499)
Well said and correct. Regarding to other issues, company is dangerous. They operate close to limit in every aspect. About FDP's and technical status of their fleet. Incredible pressure from each department to pilots that try to force them to take inadequate decisions. All pilots and cabin crew scared to be fired if they do not extend their duty or do not accept the aircraft due to technical conditions. It is fear culture.

it can be a fear culture, at the end of the day if any issue it’s for you.. there is gap between crew and corporate management.. There is a video showing the CEO what he is thinking about his customers.. Telling during a celebration that they will lick SLX ass it’s a bit too much.. If he has no consideration for the customers don’t expect much for their employees..
A lot of crews are leaving.. They want to pay you less and less..

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0ae2ba689b.png
here it’s what you can expect from them with their bulls..t conditions..
With inflation they dare to pay you less than before and of course their number is completely not real.. no basic monthly fee. With their new VP production ( before VP operation) they had the good idea to decrease the duty day allowance and slightly increase the flight allowance in order to increase productivity and pay you less..

RNP_AR_APCH 12th January 2023 07:15


Originally Posted by latecoere240 (Post 11364640)
There is a video showing the CEO what he is thinking about his customers.. Telling during a celebration that they will lick SLX ass it’s a bit too much.. If he has no consideration for the customers don’t expect much for their employees..
A lot of crews are leaving.. They want to pay you less and less..

You mean the video where zygimantas is drunk and talk busll!!!! about even hois own employees ? :ugh:

latecoere240 12th January 2023 14:05


Originally Posted by RNP_AR_APCH (Post 11364676)
You mean the video where zygimantas is drunk and talk busll!!!! about even hois own employees ? :ugh:

You nailed it !!! 👌

mindaugenius 15th January 2023 11:23

has the video been made public?

latecoere240 28th January 2023 10:22


Originally Posted by mindaugenius (Post 11366715)
has the video been made public?

as far as I know, no.. but the video went around the company.
as far as I understood they are working on Option 4 as they cannot stop exodus of pilots there…

semmern 28th January 2023 20:10

Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?

FlightDetent 28th January 2023 23:18


Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero (Post 11375892)
The CEO himself is now posting job ads on LinkedIn, shows how desperate things have become. A pay rise in excess of 25% is on the card for most captains.

I keep wondering why they arrange so differently than AvEx, despite doing pretty much the same business whichever side you look at it. The latter posted an ad the last week with 5000 EUR basic for their winter contract. Unheard of, but obviously necessary if they like to retain folks who actually could go somewhere up the ladder.

Popcorn out to see what that new offer is. Prepared to be underwhelmed though.

uberfly 29th January 2023 08:58


Originally Posted by semmern (Post 11375967)
Does anyone know the deal about the ads for Scandinavian speakers for the summer? Presume it’s wet-lease, but for whom?

Suppose to be for SAS.

uberfly 29th January 2023 09:20

At the end it is combination of money and treatment of pilot received. If you ask me latter is a bigger problem. But management is so out of their mind that they even claimed hotel and transportation provided as a benefit and they were adding cost of hotel and travel to their yearly net fee calculation to prove they pay good to pilots. It is just ridiculous. They tried about lower salaries this year and actually it worked. They started the negotiations so low that later when they make some improvements people psychologically thought oh they are offering better. Offer might look better on paper but another problem is this money they offer just before income tax and social premiums (retirement funds) paid. Obviously many of the pilots do not pay either. Maybe it is ok for older Captains but i cant imagine young FO is not contributing its retirement.


lleidapilot 29th January 2023 13:17

hey guys, whats the quality of training in slx and it's reputation at other airlines. Do ex-slx pilots get discriminated against at job applications for other airlines, despite fulfilling the hour requirements? (possibly due to poor training or poor SOPs)
like for example if 2 a320 rated FO's apply with 3000tt to EK , one from vueling and one from slx , would the vueling guy be preferred due to it's brand and reputation over slx?

Scagrams 29th January 2023 15:09

Know of few guys who got job in AF, EZY and EK from Slx recently. I myself used to work for them and after 1.5 years in a national carrier in Central Asia, now got a job for the French flag carrier.
At the end of the day, it is more about personal investment and standards rather than what's on your CV which is evaluated, imo

MD83FO 1st April 2023 11:18

What do you guys recommend among
AvEx vs Slx?

CW247 2nd April 2023 19:34

Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.

latecoere240 7th April 2023 05:53

Currently Avion express looks better than Smartlynx. With SLX expect to experience the Nigeria nightmare operation for Air Peace with peanuts income in Lagos during winter.

andorra2004 7th April 2023 10:15

Don't forget
 
Don't forget the way they mock staff, offering improvements like more off days and rostering sims and exams after those. Or that they proclaim the travel as a perk, and pilots "enjoy" 20 hours travels for 500 km journeys. It's other example of their idea of better terms.

MD83FO 7th April 2023 22:51

So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?

WhatShortage 8th April 2023 04:47


Originally Posted by CW247 (Post 11413599)
Same !!!!, different colours. Same style and type of management, same agency employers. Contracts look different but amount to the same level of airline control and gross monthly payments. My advice would be pick one that has a base that is suited to your personal/family needs. Example: SLX is big in Germany, last year massive presence in the UK. Avion do a lot of stuff out of the Americas. But things change from year to year.

Quite clear you don't know much about avex, literally the smallest operation is in America.

andorra2004 11th April 2023 10:02


Originally Posted by MD83FO (Post 11416534)
So the present situation has not improved comparing to the past?

Not at all. They keep changing contracts more and more, but in the end they only reduced the money for the FOs and increased for the captains. And they offered as an improvement more days at home, but, they send home the staff in very long journeys (to save very little money), using all kind of transports (bus, train, planes...) and then they roster activities after that are not compatible with rest time. They seem to not be aware of the luggage that it is required with so long stays at bases because they make that kind of arrangements (multiple changes of vehicles). That-s just an example of how the company is improving the terms.

uberfly 18th April 2023 08:56

They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?

Consol 18th April 2023 22:22


Originally Posted by uberfly (Post 11421707)
They are paying almost half of the competitors and they are still having pilots. What happened to us?

Friend, I'm coming close to retirement so don't think I'm harsh but some people who are a bit unlucky or maybe at the bottom of the skills set will do anything to fly. They will fill the jobs. Many will use the opportunity to improve themselves and that is great but some will sit there not gaining much skill, not being touched by any decent airline and a hazard if they are. I have seen it firsthand. Apologies to those of you who just yearn to fly but that is the reality. There is a disease at the heart of our industry. Fly safe.

SnowPilot 13th July 2023 16:51

Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?

*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit

uberfly 15th July 2023 08:32


Originally Posted by SnowPilot (Post 11466838)
Can someone explain this part of the contract to me? And the 90 that they are referring to in the table below it? Schedule 3 Table A?

*UPL limit per
calendar year (UPL
days, reflected as part of
consecutive days free
from duty 1.13 do not
count towards the limit

High season (7 months between April-October) no UPL. Low season (November-March) they could assign you up to 90 days UPL. So you will not be paid during this period. Unless they assign you to work during low season you might end up having less UPL, or volunteer to go Nigeria. But for sure you will get some UPLs.

uberfly 26th December 2023 13:10

For a while no message in the group. How is the prospect for the future? Has things improved comparing to 2022 (in terms of treatment to the pilots but not money)? If you happen to join now can you pre-agreed some bases to secure it if you live close by on this base? I heard it was the case in the past that they were sending away a German pilots who is living in Nuremberg while they were having Nuremberg base or Belgian guy living in Belgium out of Brussels base? Is that still the case or they started to make more logical choice in terms of base selection?


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