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Johnny F@rt Pants 5th September 2015 08:14

Sorry to continue the APU off/on for one more post, but please bear in mind that there are many airports where APU use is banned from a short period after on blocks to a similar short period prior to push and start. I assume Ivan that you are referring to Nice, I'm afraid that is one such destination.

Chesty Morgan 5th September 2015 08:23


Originally Posted by Ivan aromer (Post 9106228)
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Hot is subjective so I can't define it. When I decide as the captain that I need air condition the APU stays on. That is the policy. There is no SOP to
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Well done you!

For knowing what I'm talking about?

JFP, if the airport requires the APU to be shut down they should supply conditioned air, if there's no air available there's usually a caveat that the APU can stay on. What's the case in Nice?

MrHorgy 5th September 2015 08:37

Inferring we have no consideration for passenger comfort is toss. I have wandered after ground crew on a number of occasions to get them to plug the air con in, and it is the reason we all got trained on the 300 to freeze the cabin in descent. At least new 800s will make the situation better.

As for it being SOP to turn the APU off.. It is. But if its too hot, we have the authority and backing of the company to deviate, as does every single pilot worldwide regardless of airline. Its called judgement.

rudolf 5th September 2015 09:15

Loving the multi-page APU ON/OFF debate!

Seriously chaps, get a grip.

TRY2FLY 5th September 2015 09:48

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 
This is not the place for an APU on/off debate. Can we knock it on the head please.

Where the hell are the moderators

Honiley 6th September 2015 03:14


Where the hell are the moderators
Probably laughing at you Jet2 clowns!

2 Whites 2 Reds 6th September 2015 08:57


Originally Posted by scratchingthesky (Post 9107183)
The question now really is will the arrival of 27 new shiny NG's stop people leaving?

Is that a joke?

tonker 6th September 2015 09:40

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/airli...ndrew-schmertz

The new aircraft are great news, but ultimately i'd rather be just as happy on something older, on more money, with a better pension, eating crew food in a spanking uniform whilst thinking about where I'm going to enjoy my staff travel.

Or brand new, and all of the above.

Speedoneeighty 6th September 2015 09:56

So you failed the BA selection?

Hogg 6th September 2015 11:50

@Trytofly
 
Probably working or spending time with family and or friends or even maybe having a pint.
None of us spend all day constantly refreshing.

Use the report post button.
:ok:

:D @Honiley ;)

Artie Fufkin 6th September 2015 12:30


The question now really is will the arrival of 27 new shiny NG's stop people leaving?
Of all the things that Jet2 pilots "moan" about, a lack of shiny new NGs is towards the bottom of a very long list. So no, probably not!

2 Whites 2 Reds 6th September 2015 21:43

scratching....

As Artie rightly says and as I'm sure you know, shiny new aircraft is something that's a VERY long way down the list of things that people want. I'm genuinely pleased that the business is moving forward with the first steps towards fleet renewal while adding some capacity to the flying program. That being said, the financial pressures that come with new aircraft will pose a whole new challenge for the big wigs at LFFH and I'm pretty certain those at the coal face will suffer as a result. After all, the shareholders will be expecting a serious return on this enormous capital expenditure.

At a time when morale is through the floor and people on both sides of the door are either leaving or seriously looking to leave, I for one would be rather troubled if it came to light that any level of management were naive enough to believe that announcing some replacement 737's will make people think twice before hitting the 'submit' button on their BA, TOM, TCX, , FR, EK, TAG et al applications. Just my two cents worth and time will of course tell.

The Crew 7th September 2015 02:33

Interestingly (or not) Jet2 still sending out emails re exciting opportunities for rated/ none rated DE crews. I know guys who have thousands of CM1 time that have heard zero, despite completing the assessments. Not even a PFO.

infant they are still receiving the same emails, re exciting opportunities.
.Its a Bizarre flying world we live in. Little choice. So impersonal. :=

DDobinpilot 7th September 2015 10:58

Hi guys,

Apologies if this has been covered before, but just wondered, after training and on a 100% contract, what sort of monthly take home pay can a year 1 FO expect? I see the basic salary is about £50k.. What sort of money does hourly flight pay add on etc?

2 Whites 2 Reds 7th September 2015 19:50


Originally Posted by DDobinpilot (Post 9108447)
Hi guys,

Apologies if this has been covered before, but just wondered, after training and on a 100% contract, what sort of monthly take home pay can a year 1 FO expect? I see the basic salary is about £50k.. What sort of money does hourly flight pay add on etc?

Expect £3200 ish in the Summer, £2850 ish in the Winter. (After pension contribution)

Road shows gathering pace, there's one planned at EMA now. Competitive salary on offer apparently.

B737900er 7th September 2015 20:32

What about the great benefits package?

Twiglet1 7th September 2015 21:06

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 
Tonker even if u did have a better salary, pension, food, staff travel and new aeroplanes you would still moan because that's what (British) pilots do best. Only if you have been made redundant x times do you realise how lucky you are to have a salary paid on time. Many crews I suspect see Jet2 as a moving on to better things airline particularly FO's and some see it as a career airline depending on their own situ. Fact is UK AOC's are ever dwindling and I personally think it's great Jet2 are buying something new probably for the first time in its history. There are also a lot of guys and girls who work twice as hard as you Nigel's and on a lot less pay. Although they are probably used to moaning Nigel's many who have joined recently only to realise that the grass is not so green and cor blimey there's a lot of roster disruption at Jet2 would you believe. The only good news is in what say six weeks you'll be moaning your not flying and got too many standbys
Rant over

gorter 7th September 2015 23:03

Jet2 Autumn 2014
 
Twiglet,
I had retired but I decided to come back one last time. The only people who are happy at jet2 are those that have been made redundant multiple times. It can't get no worse. Except being made redundant again (just it can). Everyone else either wants to leave or hasn't yet realised that.

Me I work less earn more have a better pension, see my family more and most importantly, My roster isn't a wet rag for screwing to play target practice with.

Oh and Mr good cat. When those rose tinted glasses finally wear off. Don't come crying here. You'll have the same bar stewards as managers but with only half the cash.

ICEHOUSES 8th September 2015 08:49

Does anybody know the situation regarding annual leave at Jet2 for new recruits, is this available to take anytime of the summer or are new recruits made to take leave in the quiet winter period?

mini-jumbo 8th September 2015 08:54

I believe you'll be bound by the same rules as everyone else - that is max 9 days in the summer. Depending when you join, you may be too late for the closed bidding, so might have to try your luck with free bidding (there is very little leave available in the summer during the free bidding period).


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