As an outsider here, Honiley appears to be a boring git with a big chip on his/her shoulder...

New equipment?
 

Keep hearing this, is it an upgrade to slightly not so antiquated 73's or A320s that I have heard a wisper of ?

http://www.boeing.co.uk/news-media-room/news-releases/2015/september/boeing-jet2-finalize-order-27-ng-737-800.page?

HI Guys,

Any updates on the latest round of recruitment?

Yes! A LOT of pilots required!

Resignations still flowing into LFFH! B757 fleet at MAN close to grounded for S16. Damp lease 757 and Airbus already confirmed with more expected.

Guys with start dates heading for TOM/TCX instead, even Pilot Apprentices resigning! S15 joiners not even completed their training yet! And now even calling people they have already rejected! Desperate times in the Piled up Portacabins!

Now those with nowhere to go or make JP work for them will accuse me of all sorts of nasty things, but guys wanting to join should be flowing into LFFH on half paid ground school like there's no tomorrow...

Eyes open for all joiners! INCOMING FROM THE COOL-AID BUNCH!!!!!

Who's running the HR dept. then? The cast of "Alice in Wonderland"? Can't even be bothered to count the weeks application has been under review anymore...

DK :*

It must be well over six months that I've been under review. As NTR I'd expect to be hired only as a last resort but they must be running out of TRd guys. I hear their trip to the Mid East wasn't as successful as expected.

The 757 fleet has about 5 or 6 FO's left at MAN for S16 from what I hear.That's 1 FO per airframe. :eek:

Well, they've made some money from those 'Training Agreements' at least!

Considering how controversial we find bonding, speaks volumes when pilots are prepared to pay them!

If I had know they were here they might have had an additional attendee.

Indeed they have! Pfffft

Management busy patting themselves on the back for some decent results and toasting the good forward bookings to notice the large numbers of pilots heading for the exit door?

Emptying faster than a broken milk bottle...

Are they still asking NTR joiners to take 50% through training and then 70% contracts? Or is everyone going onto the 100% now?

I know of a couple of folks who joined straight onto the 100% contract, they were DECs though. Even got 100% through training.

Joining next year. 75 at MAN and 100% with no reduction for line training period.

Looking at the above posts I expect to be roundly ridiculed but it suits me after more redundancies than I can count and years of long,long commutes. Being 20 minutes away from work will be a blessing for this old geezer as he totters towards retirement and genteel poverty..;)

Jet2 Man.
 

ZEDDB
Don't know why there should be any ridicule? The 75 crews are, on the whole, very nice and capable. The CC are excellent, what's not to like on your way to a genteel retirement. Stay away from Leeds, the North Atlantic club, company politics and enjoy the short commute!

Zeddb are you rated on the 75 or NTR?

Thank you Ivan, I shall. Been across the pond around 1000 times by now so not really desperate to do it again although the odd day out with a night in a hotel will be ok.

Flap 40 --NTR. I never met anyone who didn't like the 757 so awaiting it with some anticipation. Lots of hours on big (and small) Boeings so shouldn't be too much of a culture shock with any luck.

I don’t understand the animosity directed towards Jet2 that perpetuates throughout this thread from time to time. I recently had an assessment with them and was made to feel welcome from the minute I walked in to the minute I left. The guys running the day were friendly, helpful and put you at ease, with no nasty surprises. As far as assessments go, the day was even quite enjoyable.

They give opportunities to people from a wide range of backgrounds and experience and haven’t blindly followed others down the CTC route. For us more mature candidates, that’s a refreshing and welcome change from the norm. Maybe this is different for experienced / type rated folks ?

The company is profitable, expanding, and self-financing, and it offers a good lifestyle for those who want to be in the regions and home every night.

I didn’t get through the selection, but when the rejection came, it was by way of a personal phone call with feedback, not just a “thanks but no thanks” email. Once again, a refreshing and welcome change compared to other airlines I’ve had dealings with.

No airline is perfect, and the T’s & C’s could be better, but my experience of them has always been positive. I’ll prepare for the incoming on my lack of experience / knowledge / etc.

Bad luck NH! The personal phone call, albeit a rejection, is a very nice touch! Give it a go next year!

Norther Highflyer
 

I think tha animosity directed at Jet2 recruiting policies is largely historic, the selection system a few years back was very badly run with very experienced pilots being sat in front of a computer game type test with flight director bars that worked back to front, this and a bunch of other tests designed to see if a non-pilot was a good training risk may be good for selecting cadets from the X-box generation but us 15,000 hour old farts are not good in front of the games consol !

This policy ended when the management finally concluded that the J2 pilot shortage was due to the rejection of lots of experienced pilots on due to lack of computer gaming skills.

My result from the Jet2 selection was totally successful in that they rejected me and the next job I was interviewed for was, much better paid, flying new equipment and based on my doorstep !............ I wish you a similar outcome.

Ivan Aroma
 

Your post was spot on.:D

From the B757 fleet, some Senior F/O's (mainly ex-DHL) are indeed leaving to go to BA,EK, EY & QR but these are all under 40 years of age & you'll always get that as some people, quite right,ly want to progress to 'National' carriers.
I haven't heard of any going to VAA... yet.

Some are also going to TCX & TOM because these offer Southern UK bases, in-place Scheduling (Rostering) Agreements, Short/Long Haul mix, fairer T&C's in terms of pension contributions, Day Off payments, basic salary & FDA & a major player which is discounted Staff Travel.

I don't know if it's as dire as 6 FO's left at MAN but the remaining guys are all seasoned pro's, each with well over 10 years B757/767 ETOPS & global route experience, generally 40+ in age & are all in the next tranche of Command slots on the B757. More Pilot Apprentices are being trained for the B757, a liberal sprinkling of returnees from the Gulf' & those moving on to 'Bigger Things' coming from turboprop commands being trained up over the winter will ensure that the numbers are back up to normal levels as the season starts. In addition to a smattering of transfers from the B737 fleet.

The B757 Captains are pretty much a settled bunch, with annual totals for Line Captains rarely getting above 400 hours, Trainers do have it tougher with TRI/TRE's shuttling up & down the M62.

The pay is on time, albeit at the lower end of the salary rankings for similar operators. Company is doing well, not over exposed in the Mediterranean trouble spots, no 'Deep' night flights that blights most Charter/IT rosters, they own most of their aircraft outright, they're spending squillions of quids on cockpit & avionics upgrades for the B757 investing in them to keep them for the next 7-10 years & brand new B73NG's to replace the older B733's. They're increasing in size at a cautious rate but the rise in share price glows of cautious, shrewd management. When I joined it was 75p, now its around 525p in 5 years. Forward bookings are way ahead of already ambitious predictions for S2016, it's looking rosy.

The management just needs to give internal upgrades to it's most experienced SFO's, provide competitive T&C's more in-line with its competitors, introduce a Staff Travel scheme & a Rostering Agreement IF it wants to attract & retain its experienced crews.

Because all in all its not a bad job, with fun crews & simple flying.

Very true JB. It made a bitter pill slightly easier to swallow. My application will be in again next time. :ok:

A and C

I don't have 15,000 hours but I'm heading towards old fart territory rapidly, so perhaps I need to brush up on my X Box skills. I'll have a word with Santa. :E

Any improvements on the randomness of people being upgraded from 70% to 100%? On the 75 in particular.

Pay increase of 4% on basic & sector pay plus £5000 increase for captains from 1 April next year. Also increase on sector payments for longer sectors to £30/sector.

What are the "longer sectors"? Is it the same as the longest sector bracket under the old pay system or a new even longer one?

>1300NM i.e. Canaries/Turkey/Cyprus/USA on 757

Not quite.

The old sector pay is the same (<1000/1000-1300/>1300) but there's now an additional >1600nm rate which is £32.

Any news about the FO's getting a pay increase? Thanks

I believe FO/SO it's 4% and £13 for the longer sectors. SFO also get a £1000 increase.

Friends have told me £1070 add on for SFO's.

They also had a 3% pay rise in October time which was back dated so all in all thats a 7% pay rise. SFO wages won't be far off £65k if you include sector pay.

..and many stories were told of the October pay rise, and legends were born that the pay, it did rise, and it was October...

OCTOBER PAY RISE...
 

No, they didn't.

News to me. That letter must have been lost in the post and they must have forgotten to tell payroll too...

My source said it was an immediate payrise of 3% back in june/july time.
Not October like I said so my mistake.

Still wrong...
 

Your source is talking bo***ks.

No pay rise for any FD after the April one. And £65k for an SFO? Maybe the odd one or two B737 FO's hitting 900 hours, but for almost every other SFO, maybe £62k - AFTER next April's pay rise.

If you don't actually know, why comment?

...and they would have to be supremely unlucky. The majority are looking at 550-600 hrs/yr. Hard to get to 900 when you do 2-3 flights a month in the winter!

Sorry. Forgot the £70! :D

Trainer's got a pay rise. That may have been in October.

Daddy-Oh Yes they did, thats why more source said they got a pay rise.

So Station Calling that would answer your question.

Either way £62k a year (including sector) is pretty well paying.

Out of curiousity, what sort of increment do trainers get?
PPJN doesn't list things like that.