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bex88 2nd September 2014 07:08

Good luck for all today. Hopefully good news for most as we need guys and girls to join us.

My two pence worth......why do you want to leave your current airline? "I don't I am quite happy there"

Why do you want to join BA? "I just can't see myself not getting bored of flying tracksuits to turkey for the next 30 years and I appreciate the opportunities BA offer over a career"

And tell me what is your ultimate goal if you were to join BA? "To balance a successful and progressive career with a happy marriage". To which the interviewing pilot smiles, laughed and said yes yes divorce is expensive I can tell you.

How would you describe yourself? "Recklessly honest"

Worked for me so BA sometimes appreciate straight to the point without the equine poop.

Tay Cough 2nd September 2014 07:19

WWW,

A full-time LHR shorthaul pilot will do broadly the same number of hours as you indicate (the average is slightly more in fact) but with annual duty time approaching 2000 hours, usually spent hanging around in a windowless coffee bar in the bowels of T5 waiting for your next aircraft (fixed links are rare).

Personally, it's all the hanging around and feet dragging which gets to me.....

Edit: If you join today, you will get a five year shorthaul freeze. What this does not mean is that you can move to longhaul after five years. What it means is that you will have a valid bid which will be actioned subject to vacancies and your seniority. Currently, you will have to wait around seven years for your seniority to allow a move.

no sponsor 2nd September 2014 07:44

Personally, I wish we could offer all the Monarch chaps and chappets places. I don't think we will be short this time around.

BA for all its faults (and there are a few) is still far superior than the crappy outfit I used to fly for.

eaglesnest1972 2nd September 2014 08:27

Just noticed that deadline for DEP (rated) has been postponed...
10th of september now...
Guess all applications received so far do not satisfy BA recruiters:cool:
Or too few applications...
Any insight from current BA fellow pilots?

wiggy 2nd September 2014 08:56


Any insight
At the risk of repeating myself.... :\

Nothing official, but it's rumoured Flight Ops are under the cosh from a workload POV at the moment, maybe it' something to do with that.

(presses "Submit Reply" once, and waits.........):\

kirungi1 2nd September 2014 09:34

The DailyMail has some fine words for BA. They say history has a tendency of repeating itself ;)

Ryanair is snubbed as budget easyJet edges into list of world's top 10 airlines ... and British Airways steals number one spot | Mail Online

eaglesnest1972 2nd September 2014 09:46

Thanks Wiggy:ok:

ETOPS240 2nd September 2014 11:20

Kirungi
 
When Brighton is named number one for restaurants and bars, I think we can safely turn the page on that one.

kirungi1 2nd September 2014 11:37

ETOPS240..... depends on what you read out of it. None-the-less, a recognition remains a recognition and I'm sure others wouldn't have turned it down.

I would still stay on the same page!

Northern Monkey 2nd September 2014 16:24

WWW

Might I hazard a guess that you don't fly from Gatwick? When I worked for easyjet down there I averaged well over 685 hours a year. Now I'm at BA I'm averaging more like 825 block hours a year on short haul but obviously I do a lot more duty hours than I used to. I haven't met a 320 FO or Captain who's done less than 800 in the last 12 months.

Regardless of how the two airlines are perceived a lot of it will come down to where you are based with easyJet. That's what makes the comparison more complicated than certain people would like.

Wee Weasley Welshman 2nd September 2014 16:32

I concur.

When you factor in mortgage repayments on a regional house compared to a SE house then that's another overlooked aspect assuming you have geographic flexibility.

mesh 2nd September 2014 18:24

think deadline extension may provide a few Monarch peeps

Callsign Kilo 2nd September 2014 18:53

MON
 
Good, I hope as many as possible get positions. Horrid to have to go through redundancy

edward england 2nd September 2014 21:15

Would any junior FO's on the A320 with BA be kind enough to share :-
1. How many reports on average per month?
2. How many nights down route on average per month?
Are there many junior guys/girls on the A320 living over 90 minutes away from LHR and finding the commute acceptable?

Stocious 3rd September 2014 02:08

From a dip sample of 20 random September rosters at the blindline/junior tripline holder (samples taken from only months without leave):

1) Average of 10.2 reports from 20 rosters (range 7-13)
2) Average of 7.05 nights away from base (range 2-9)

Total average days worked : just over 17

eaglesnest1972 3rd September 2014 02:27

@Mesh

so you think it will be a "all UK" recruitment from Monarch, Easy and the others?
I really hope they will give a chance to expats also this time:ooh:
Btw, yes, redudancy is simply awful so i hope these guys will fix their situations asap.

FANS 3rd September 2014 06:39

www, is your plan 30 years at ezy?

bex88 3rd September 2014 06:51

Edward England, Stocious is just about spot on with his figures. There are guys who commute from Norther Ireland etc on the SH fleet but its difficult for them. 90 minutes is ok just, but in my view anything over an hour is a real pain in the ass. If you are coming from the north the M25, M1, M40 can be almost impossible to judge. Many guys block their work together and stay down.

I was living an hour and 20 mins away and it was acceptable but I did eventually move to live within an hour although the commute was not the motivating factor

Megaton 3rd September 2014 07:34

I commuted from Glasgow on short haul for five years. It was manageable but not much fun. Also, I was able to pick up 4/5 day tours which kept down the nights at Heathrow. The real pains are disruption and reserve but there are plenty of acceptable b & bs near LHR for £30 a night.

bringbackthe80s 3rd September 2014 07:42

FANS just to give you perspective, there is and will eventually be NO difference between any short haul operation in Europe in terms of fatigue/amount of hours flown etc..we are talking 830 (eighthundredandthirty!) hours flown in a year at a major as of 2014, this would have been unthinkable 10 years ago or even less. Long haul will eventually have the same problem.

So to ask if you are planning to stay in this or that company for x amount of years does not indicate much me thinks.

The truth is, if tiredness/fatigue is a factor for you (which it is for most of us flying for the airlines), then join the company with the best part time options/pay, not a traditional 5 days trips short haul operation, possibly commuting from the middle of the countryside.

Sorry for OT


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