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Doug E Style 16th October 2018 13:25


Originally Posted by NoCtot (Post 10284519)
Being in the top third of the SH bidding group (over 75% behind me)

I couldn’t help wondering, are you in the top third (over 67% behind you) or the top quarter (over 75% behind you)?

NoCtot 16th October 2018 13:48


Originally Posted by Doug E Style (Post 10284616)


I couldn’t help wondering, are you in the top third (over 67% behind you) or the top quarter (over 75% behind you)?

hahaha nice one, that is the current SH fatigue starting to kick in ;-)

67% behind me indeed.

All the rosters are now published internally. The junior guys on LH and especially the B777 are getting absolutely hammered, really do feel sorry for them. Those rosters are just pure evil and unbearable (6,7 and even 8 trips a month).

RexBanner 16th October 2018 13:52

Reading Yammer it reminds me very much of the South Park “The Human CentiPad” episode mocking Apple’s Terms and Conditions (and the lack of reading thereof before clicking agree) whereby the users are turned into a Human Centipede (it was in the small print) with Steve Jobs, unable to comprehend the discomfort and dissatisfaction of those people now stitched together, forcefully and scornfully making the point to them that “you agreed to this!!!”

Wireless 16th October 2018 14:12


Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10284639)
Reading Yammer it reminds me very much of the South Park “The Human CentiPad” episode mocking Apple’s Terms and Conditions (and the lack of reading thereof before clicking agree) whereby the users are turned into a Human Centipede (it was in the small print) with Steve Jobs, unable to comprehend the discomfort and dissatisfaction of those people now stitched together, forcefully and scornfully making the point to them that “you agreed to this!!!”


:) ha ha!

like I say put me in mind of the veet reviews. For example this one pasted from amazon. I found that the letters “JSS” and “roster” could be comfortably substituted into the review and it still bared a striking resemblance to the comments on yammer . Particularly heeding the lesson regarding the rules. Indulge me if you will...

“Being a loose cannon who does not play by the rules the first thing I did was ignore the warning and smear JSS all over my (unmentionables). The rosters I knew and loved are gone now. In their place is a maroon coloured bag of agony which sends stabs of pain up my body every time it grazes against my thigh or an article of clothing. I am suffering so that you don't have to. Heed my lesson. “

Wireless 16th October 2018 15:14

Looking at the dry run rosters it is quite amazing. Never have I seen such a clear change as you scroll down the seniority. If you scroll fast it’s actually like a flick book animation with more and more work blocks appearing per line and the credit going towards 100 hours the further down the lines you get. The 777 and 747 really illustrate this.

looks like it should be renamed STAABRS - six trip and a bit rostering system or JFS - junior fatigue system.

Now, keeping ones hair on for a second, I don’t know how accurate all this dry run stuff is compared to what it’ll be like when everyone is involved. Also, I think even BA will recognise allow that kind of run rate to go on and they’ll have an issue with crews dropping off the operational perch pretty quickly and in large order. So as bad as it looks on the dry runs, the actual product might be different (says searching for optimism). I hope so anyway!

ETOPS 17th October 2018 20:44

Hi Buter,

What the heck happened to MP ?? Sounds like a major upset - hope it wasn't over JSS.

hunterboy 18th October 2018 04:54

With any luck, the fatigue levels will go through the roof. It needs hundreds of pilots to go fatigued as it’s only when BA start cancelling flights due to shortages will they recruit more. I’m astounded at how many pilots soldier on flying 5 or more trips a month. On long haul, that would probable mean 5 nights out of bed without any sleep. Is that really how we should be operating aircraft in the 21st century? 2 pilots across the Atlantic overnight, without any rest? Controlled rest doesn’t really cut it i’m afraid.

Buter 18th October 2018 20:54



Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 10285774)
Hi Buter,

What the heck happened to MP ?? Sounds like a major upset - hope it wasn't over JSS.

Contact him directly. He will be more than happy to explain.

Hunter - with very rare exception, each flight for me is 2 nights out of bed.

Cheers

Buter

PS - Damn, just hit 100 posts! Took 15 years. Time to move on, I guess.

sun shines every day 19th October 2018 14:09

Hello all,

Any invitations for the A320 LGW assessment lately? Is Captain position realistic for experienced applicants in <18 months for LGW? Will LHR transfer be possible?

Thank you

NLP 19th October 2018 16:09


Originally Posted by sun shines every day (Post 10287092)
Hello all,

Any invitations for the A320 LGW assessment lately? Is Captain position realistic for experienced applicants in <18 months for LGW? Will LHR transfer be possible?

Thank you

Yes, Captain within 18 months is possible. Latest rumours are everyone who has bid for a LGW command in 2019 will get it. LHR transfer as a FO is no problem, in fact you can probably tell them you’d prefer LHR and start there. LHR Captain is harder as you will need the seniority for a LHR command. Latest rumours for LHR command is ~3500 on a ~4350 pilot workforce.

Disclaimer: it’s rumour and appearantly very fluid at the moment.


Daddy Fantastic 19th October 2018 16:39

Application response
 

Originally Posted by NLP (Post 10287180)


Yes, Captain within 18 month is possible. Latest rumours are everyone who has bid for a LGW command in 2019 will get it. LHR transfer as a FO is no problem, in fact you can probably tell them you’d prefer LHR and start there. LHR Captain is harder as you will need the seniority for a LHR command. Latest rumours for LHR command is ~3500 on a ~4350 pilot workforce.

Disclaimer: it’s rumour and appearantly very fluid at the moment.

Anybody know how long it is taking after the initial online application to get an interview, providing one is successful with the online assessment? I applied about 10 days ago and wondering how long it could roughly take.

I applied as NTR FO but as experienced pilot with jet time and over 5000 hours.

Thegreenmachine 19th October 2018 18:09


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10287205)
Anybody know how long it is taking after the initial online application to get an interview, providing one is successful with the online assessment? I applied about 10 days ago and wondering how long it could roughly take.

I applied as NTR FO but as experienced pilot with jet time and over 5000 hours.

5 months for me between initial application, invite for aptitude testing, invite for group exercise, invite for sim assessment.

Elw18 21st October 2018 10:11

02/08/18 - Application submitted
21/08/18 - Invited for stage 1
31/08/18 - Stage 1
03/09/18 - Outcome stage 1
08/10/18 - Stage 2
12/10/18 - Outcome stage 2 - waiting for sim date

Daddy Fantastic 21st October 2018 11:17


Originally Posted by Elw18 (Post 10288408)
02/08/18 - Application submitted
21/08/18 - Invited for stage 1
31/08/18 - Stage 1
03/09/18 - Outcome stage 1
08/10/18 - Stage 2
12/10/18 - Outcome stage 2 - waiting for sim date

I presume invited for stage 1 on 21/08/18 means a face to face interview as opposed to the online assessment which was already complete.

Elw18 21st October 2018 11:58


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10288458)
I presume invited for stage 1 on 21/08/18 means a face to face interview as opposed to the online assessment which was already complete.

Stage 1 was maths, verbal reasoning and capacity test. Stage 2 interview, group exercise and Q&A presentation. Stage 3 is sim check.

efarto 23rd October 2018 14:49

Came from purple coloured turbo prop operator this summer and despite missing the friendly faces in the crew room, no regrets at all. Have much more time off, feel more looked after. Some may say it’s not the best job in the world but it definitely suits me. The control over the roster is unbelievable, junior bidding aside I have much more control over my home life.

wiggy 23rd October 2018 14:51

How did your JSS dry run work out? :hmm:

RexBanner 23rd October 2018 15:07


Originally Posted by efarto (Post 10290383)
The control over the roster is unbelievable, junior bidding aside I have much more control over my home life.

Control over your home life on blind lines and (if you really did come in over the summer) reserve every other month? Pull the other one!

GS-Alpha 23rd October 2018 15:27


The control over the roster is unbelievable
. I’m looking forwards to your comments on this subject come January. The step change reduction in the quality of junior rosters is indeed going to be unbelievable. There will be plenty of recruitment though, because we’ll likely see the largest number of resignations in the history of BA pilots.

170SVDG 23rd October 2018 15:33

Do you have 2018 payscales??

Thanks,


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