TBH I'm going to waffle and say I can't give a definitive answer since the rules on that are buried away in Bidline appendices and flow charts (extra payments, if any, can depend on the why, how and where....) so I'd best leave an authorative answer to someone who has diverted more recently that I have.

I would point out that the days of picking up loads of extra dosh for extra sectors, or extended sectors (overrun payments) or even being really very late ( extra Box payments) have long gone. It's a nice suprise if you do see extra payments on the payslip but I certainly wouldn't rely on it as part of your income stream, especially as in Longhaul it doesn't happen that often. I reckon I've only diverted once in the last 4-5 years.

As always, thank you for your input Wiggy.

AFAIK any diversion/disruption which increases the duty time is automatically paid at standard rate. You need to keep a close eye on your pay statement st the end of the month as these extra hours can often 'fall through the cracks'. ;)

The requirement for direct entry long haul state the above. Does this mean I can definitely apply with a CPL as I meet the requirements of an ATPL but can't do the skills test for a few months? Anyone been offered a position in this scenario?

No - I believe that that clause is to cater for those without a UK EASA ATPL but with one issued by (for example) a Gulf state or even Ireland or Mainland Europe, who would be able to have it changed between being offered a position and starting with the company.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you were looking for!

CE

I would suggest getting in touch with recruitment and explaining the situation (if you work for who I think and have just seen the memo I think) and see what they say.

Who is going to the day 1 assessment next week 23 march?

Online Application Waiting Time
 

Quick question, I submitted my online application on Saturday (12th March) for the A320 Fleet. How long can I expect to wait until I hear back from British Airways?

Thanks

I applied for DEP Longhaul. I got a answer 1 day later.

From Careers Home - British Airways

'Please note the following information if you have made a previous application to us. We cannot accept a new application within:
6 Months if you were unsuccessful at initial application screening
12 months if you were unsuccessful at any stage of testing/interview/simulator assessment. You are welcome to reapply 12 months from the date you attended initial aptitude testing

When you proceed to apply

Have you previously applied for this role or any other Pilot role within the last 6 months

Note any other role which in your case is LH DEP

Please note that only one application can be accepted within a rolling 6 month period.

Have you attended the assessment stage in the last 12 months


However as we know BA does change policy from time to time, such as inviting people before the 12 months has elapsed.

I too would like another shot but have to wait 12 months, but to put your mind at rest why not phone BA recruitment, they seem always happy to help.

Again I told the person who asked me the above, but I wasn't actually sure. It was more the fact he tried applying within 12 months and ticked 'no' to the above questions. He hadn't heard back from BA re the second application, and I explained this might be why. Just wanted to check...thanks

Having recently failed the sim assessment, don't assume the 10 minutes un-assessed practice is really as un-assessed as they tell you.

Any insiders know if they will be doing call backs for those that only fell at the final hurdle?
;)

Why do you say that? Did they specially say you failed due to that?

The 10 mins time for you to get used to the Sim is totally unassessed. You are not secretly being monitored at this point. BA is such a large and prominent employer in this industry and is so paranoid about bad press, that all recruitment follows a strict well defined framework. This ensures no allegations of discrimination of any sort.

The same also applies for internal applications which are as long winded and laborious as external applications.

Hi Guys,

I have a question with regards to the verbal test, that if anyone can answer, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I understand that the test has changed recently.

Could anyone perhaps share any info on the new test?

I understand you need to answer quickly and with accuracy but does anyone know how many questions there are in the test? - If so, any idea on the pass mark required?

I felt the sim process was very open, and the radar circuit was unassessed. However, given that the assessor was in all likelihood giving you handling feedback during and after your circuit, I believe that your ability to incorporate that feedback into your assessment sectors WAS assessed given that trainability was one of the three key areas I was told were under assessment.

For long haul new starters, After getting a blindline roster, can you still swap with someone? Especially if it's a swap of flights operating on the same day. Say one flight with a duty start at 9am, swapped with another at 9pm.

In broad brush terms you can try swapping any trip with anyone on your status who is agreeable, regardless of days and timings, but both swaps have to still be a legal fit on the receiving lines and that has become more difficult under EASA...You will generally only find out if a swap is permissible when you try to action it though the rostering system (eMaestro). That's when you find out if the computer says "no".... or not.

More info required - the outbound sectors depart LHR on the same day, but may well return into LHR on different days, even if they are trips of exactly the same length (i.e. time away from base). On a tight roster if moving the return into LHR back by 12 hours puts it into another local day there might be a conflict with EASA Minimum time off at base prior to the next trip...

In short every swap is different, you have to run your plan through eMaestro every time to see if what you're planning is allowable.

I understand there have been over 100 DEPs onto the longhaul fleets this year alone, how is this affecting the 320 pilots coming up to the end of their freeze, are any being allowed to change fleets or is it just not happening?

If that's the case is it affecting morale amongst the shorthaul pilots?

Is anyone able to give a description (perhaps even based on recent experience) of the computer aptitude tests?