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justanotherflyer 22nd February 2014 17:49

Well whaddya know...?
 
It seems it's a good time to be a pilot. We should be celebrating, right?

:hmm:

DutchExpat 23rd February 2014 07:20

Here s finally a realistic reply in the media to that one

http://m.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/news-wire/2014/02/20/commuter-airlines-face-pilot-shortage.html?r=full

Ollie Onion 23rd February 2014 07:39

Yes, and I bet the 1600 pilots a year that Emirates churn out from their own school will be on a market leading wage and not some dodgy 'cadet' based cheap contract.

Just because the world might need all these extra pilots doesn't mean it will translate into better conditions for the rest of us in general. Airlines will just say that they need to put so much into training that they can't afford the traditional levels of pay. :ugh: And of course they will have a que around the block of willing takers.

Journey Man 23rd February 2014 11:05

market forces...
 
For the last decade 'simply market forces' and 'supply and demand' have been the reasons given for terms and conditions going backwards for new hires.

Now those same market forces are turning the other way, it's a crisis? Airlines have convinced the government to fund student loans for flight training to maintain the new status quo of self funded training and type ratings.

Don't hold your breath for them simply increasing T&Cs to attract more pilots, as apparently the industry needs you...

lifeafteraviation 24th February 2014 04:48

The article you see in biz journal has a lot to do with USAirways pulling advertising funds after the AA deal.

Not to say its not true but...

Aluminium shuffler 27th February 2014 11:19

Terms and conditions will continue down regardless of global need - there will always be excited newbies willing to fly for free or even pay to work, and the locos will continue to promote early (c4 years in for a cadet), filling the supply of desperate captains wanting to leave to a better company. The demand may be high, but so is the supply.


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