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trancada 22nd July 2012 17:14

One point that i don't understand is they just want to contract pilots instead of permanent? They just signed out for B737 Max and A320 Neo?

Do pilots have the chance to opt to make discounts to the social insurance and retirement in Norway?

captplaystation 23rd July 2012 19:53

Not sure if Cadet recruitment is handled by Norwegian directly, or their TRTO, I guess if it is not on website it is either full, or handled by the school.

As the main reason for taking contractors is the avoidance of the Norwegian taxes/social payments, even if you could pay (unlikely as your contract is with the agency , not Norwegian) the company don't want to make the contributions. . . hence, contractors & bases in HEL/AGP/LPA & not in TRF/GOT etc.

If you can't correlate this with ordering 737MAX/A320NEOS have you missed the fact that Ryanair have 300+ aircraft & more than 50% Contractors ?

Boeing Europe 23rd July 2012 21:13

So from what I have been reading no-one in the last few months has been contacted for experienced first officer recruitment...? I spoke to Mr hansen 2 weeks ago took the time to have a chat even though he was on his holidays,said to e-mail him my name etc and documents as a reminder.... very nice guy so I did that today fingers crossed,I was told they had 300+ applications for experienced FO's and did not plan to start looking at them until early August surely they need more then 300+ to fulfill current orders...

fade to grey 1st August 2012 13:16

Hi,
I have been told they have selected those they want for August screenings, with more to come later in the year.

I wouldn't hold your breath....

Heathrow Harry 1st August 2012 13:32

Norwegian tax rates
 
Tax residents in Norway: are liable to pay tax on their worldwide income,
Non tax residents in Norway: are liable to pay tax on their Norwegian-source income only.
Individuals will be regarded as tax residents:
  • if they stay in Norway and do not have the intention to stay only temporarily;
  • a stay of at least 6 months is sufficient for the taxpayer to be considered a resident from the date of arrival even if the stay is only temporary;
Losing tax residence:
  • a taxpayer is regarded as having terminated his/her residence only if he/she has established a permanent home in another state and is present in Norway for less than 61 days during the tax year;
  • neither the taxpayer nor his/her spouse or dependent children may have a permanent home available in Norway.
A taxpayer who has been resident in Norway for 10 years or more before emigration will be regarded as being resident for 3 more years, starting on the date on which the above conditions are met.
Married couples are usually taxed jointly. If both spouses have income they can be taxed separately, though, at the request of either spouse.
Taxable income:
All types of employment income, whether in cash or kind, are normally taxable.
Taxable remuneration in kind includes:
  • free housing,
  • free car,
  • free travel.
Income tax rates for 2012:
The general combined rate of national and municipal income tax is 28% on all taxable income.
A further national income tax, called “top tax” or “surtax”, is levied on gross income:
  • 9.00% on income between NOK 490'000and NOK 796'400,
  • 12.00% on income above NOK 796'400.
Allowances and deductions for national and municipal income tax for 2012 include:
  • a standard deduction (minimum allowance) to cover expenses connected with the generation of income, calculated on the basis of salaries and other types of income;
  • for employees it is 38% of the base subject to a minimum of NOK 40'000 and a maximum of NOK 75'150.
The minimum allowance does not cover:
  • additional expenses incurred while living away from home,
  • travel expenses,
  • interest,
  • child care expenses and alimony.
Such expenses can be claimed in addition to the minimum allowance, and in all events, the taxpayer may choose to claim a deduction for actual expenses if these are higher than the minimum allowance.
Jointly assessed married couples and single persons with dependents can benefit from a personal allowance of NOK 90’700.
For other persons the personal allowance is NOK 45’350.
Expatriates:
  • a special 10% deduction can be claimed by expatriates,staying less than 2 years in Norway; it is applicable to earned income for the national and municipal tax (not for the surtax which is levied on gross income);
  • the maximum deduction is NOK 40’000 and replaces all other deductions except the minimum allowance and personal allowances.
In Norway income tax ("inntektsskatt") and wealth tax ("formuesskatt") are direct taxes ("direkte skatter"). Income tax is paid directly as a percentage of income, whereas wealth tax is a tax on things you own, such as a house, bank deposits etc. Taxes are paid both to the state and the local municipality. In addition, a premium is paid to the social security system to finance public hospitals, medical treatment and various social benefits.


The most important indirect tax ("indirekte skatt") is value added tax, VAT, which is a general tax levied on sales within the country and on import. VAT is levied on most goods and some services, and applies to all stages in the chain of production and distribution. Any person engaged in trade or business is required to register and to charge and pay VAT on goods he/she supplies. VAT on inputs purchased by the registrants is deductible in the VAT accounts. VAT is thus not a tax on the registrants but a tax on final consumption.


VAT is presently calculated at a rate of 12 to 24 per cent of net price.


All self-employed persons are obliged to add this tax to sales of goods and services; it is a punishable offence not paying this tax in Norway. Further information on value added tax is available from the Chief County Tax Inspector ("Fylkesskattesjefen").


Your employer in Norway is obliged to deduct tax from you wages before you are paid. Once you have found employment in Norway you must obtain a tax card from you local taxation office as soon as possible. Your employer and the taxation office will provide all necessary information on how to apply and what you must enclose with your application. The tax card states what percentage of your income your employer must deduct in tax.


If you start work without a tax card, your employer is obliged to deduct 50% tax. This is generally more than would be deducted from you wages if you had a tax card, but if you have paid too much tax, you will receive a refund in the spring or autumn of the following year when the tax assessments are completed.


If you live in Norway for a period less than six months, special tax regulations apply. Your local taxation office ("ligningskontor") in Norway will provide more information.


A detailed overview of the Taxes in Norway is offered on the web pages of the Ministry of Finance. A guide to the Norwegian tax system is available here.
The bilateral treaty between the Government of the Kingdom of Norway and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and capital was amended on the 12 October 2000.

Boeing Europe 1st August 2012 15:30

Just as a matter of interest again has any FO who has applied for the contract posiiton been contacted by the company...?? for assesment interview etc...? I see they have changed their recruitment page online and you now must complete "online tests" ugghh

Heathrow Harry 1st August 2012 16:44

also

Employee's and self-employed's social security contributions

Social security contribution (trygdeavgift) is levied on "personal income" (personinntekt). Personal income includes wage income and business income due to active efforts, but generally not capital income, and there is no deductions in labor income and limited right to charge a deduction from business income. The tax rate is 3.0 % for pension income, 7.8 % for wage income and 11 % for other business income.


No social security contribution is paid for income below the "exemption card threshold" (frikortgrense). This threshold is NOK 39 997 in 2010. Then, social security contribution is paid at a levelling rate of 25 % (of the income above NOK 39 600) until this gives a higher total tax than using the standard tax rate on all personal income. Then the general rates are used.


Lower threshold for payment of employee’s social security contribution NOK 39 600 Levelling rate 25.0 % Rate
Wage income 7.8 % Income from self-employment in primary sector 7.8 % Income from other self-employment 11.0 % Pension income, etc. 4.7 %

737 Jockey 3rd August 2012 12:07

Has anyone applied for DEC? Any further news on LGW as a base?

Cheers!

180 baktrak 4th August 2012 16:53

Yea, applied for DEC a few weeks ago but nothing heard yet. Any one have any idea when those selected for August screening will be contacted?

RMC 4th August 2012 17:07

I heard of a 737 NG guy who actually went for the Dreamliner cruise Captain position...didn't get it but was offered a 737 LPA contract. I think this LGW rumour was started a little earlier in this thread and is spreading like wildfire with no evidence to support ...hoping to be proved wrong!

archer_737 4th August 2012 21:59

Norwegian contract pilots
 
As long as I know the course for August is a TR course for non experienced F/O.
I've never met any experienced F/O interviewing with them. Maybe they will just focus on makin € with the self sponsored courses

s.gultepe 6th August 2012 20:57

TR COST
 
Does anyone know what they ask for TR in terms of money

RoyHudd 6th August 2012 21:37

P2F idiots
 
Don't do it!

Dovregubben 10th August 2012 20:54

EUR 25.000,- including sim and aircraft landings.

spider_man 10th August 2012 21:16


I've never met any experienced F/O interviewing with them. Maybe they will just focus on makin € with the self sponsored courses
Great. Another airline off the list. :mad:

archer_737 14th August 2012 15:29

Norwegian contract pilots
 
Friend of mine has been called for interview. Experienced 737 F/O. So it seems they are not calling only ab initio pilots.
Good luck to you guys!

Boeing Europe 14th August 2012 17:13

Great news I was only in contact with rishworth this morning do you know if your friend's rating is current and how many hours he has archer...??

archer_737 14th August 2012 18:01

Yes he is current, don't know about the hours, close to 3k I guess.

Good luck

FRying 15th August 2012 08:21

Pay for TR. Why stop so short of giving a mouth job ???

Rik737 16th August 2012 02:15

DEC anyone?
 
Applied way back in June for DEC, not heard anything... 7000 TT 3500 command 737 NG. Anyone heard for DEC? Should I give Rishworth a call?
Cheers

babemagnet 17th August 2012 14:52

Total PArc and RIsworth package is 8800€ including everything .
No tax paid anywhere.
If you have to pay tax the country you live in not much € is left.

Have fun


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