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downwind24 22nd March 2012 20:39

Under review must be a good sign. Mine says rejected! You obviously meet the criteria so fingers crossed !

Pin Head 22nd March 2012 22:55

so just remind me what the crack was for the TCX career break deal? Return ticket from the sandpit included?

frozenpilot 22nd March 2012 23:24

Yes Pilots could opt for a 3,4,5 year career break. Also voluntary redundancy was offered and the net reduction was 72 pilots. There apparently are still more wishing to leave the business and others are looking to jump ship. I understand the career break system works so a pilot will return at same base, same rank, and seniority ..... As long as that position exists. However, unless things change over the next 5 months, anyone joining us should be well aware it is only a summer contract as there are 7 aircraft who's leases expire at the end of the year, and there is currently no jets earmarked to replace them..... Possibly yet more fun at the mill!

Honest Fr@nk 23rd March 2012 14:55

I know a bloke down the pub who's got a mate who knows someone thats got an interview at TCX. Would there be any kind souls out there who have gone through the selection procedure in previous summers? Oh, and for those interested, I believe this chap has some time on the 757.
PM me please.

Dan 98 24th March 2012 18:02

Has anyone actually had confirmation of an interview yet? My status just says
"Under Review"!! :rolleyes:

Was just wondering whether anyone had any updates.

Cheers

Dan 98 30th March 2012 15:09

Seems to have gone very quiet on this thread......:confused:

Anyone on the inside know anything have the places been filled?

Thanks

fade to grey 30th March 2012 15:17

One of my ex colleagues going for intervew early april.

3500hrs, alot on boeing

Dan 98 30th March 2012 15:33

Thanks Fade to Grey.

I've not heard a thing either way!!

Probably a PFO i expect...

Cheers

Boeing Europe 30th March 2012 18:49

Mine under review aswell alos expect the PFO

Farfrompuken 30th March 2012 18:57

Checked mine today; declined. Ho Hum!

Firestorm 2nd April 2012 08:20

Is this for TCX?

B757/767 FO - UK Based with Storm McGinley | 1401337749

fade to grey 2nd April 2012 21:36

Yes mate, says it's for thomas cook.

Interviews tomorrow, several ex-colleagues going.

Dan 98 3rd April 2012 18:30

God 38-39k on the Storm McGinely site seems on the low side especially as it's a contract!!! A mistake?

Surely they'll struggle paying that!!! :ugh::ugh:

spider_man 3rd April 2012 18:45


38-39k on the Storm McGinely site seems on the low side
The numbers could be misleading since 38-39k is per annun and the contract is only 6 months in duration. Its more like 19k basic.

However, its a job.

Honest Fr@nk 3rd April 2012 19:01

19 K ???? Get real. Closer to 50 K paid pro rata.

BigNumber 3rd April 2012 20:08

Do you really think that they would fail to recruit? Even if they offered £10K.

Folks, in large numbers, are paying to fly.

Rightly so, it's a wheeze!:E

Firestorm 3rd April 2012 22:06

They'll get all they want. In a few years experienced people with a couple of thousand hours on type will doing internships. There will always be someone who will accept the salary that's offered even if it is 10% lower than the previous season, and a temporary contract with no benefits.

BigNumber 4th April 2012 07:08

Exactly my north of Coventry mate!

It is proving very hard to get paid wear a set of gold bars. I blame Leonardo for the pickle we are in!!;)

If countless are willing to pay for their 'show off', why would joe public subsidise anyones large? You have to pay for your pose!

Terms are in free fall. My rates (CJ3 Biz Jet) have not seen any lift in 5 years!

Only when Mums and Dads can no longer fund the party will we have any chance of better terms. Easy credit and house equity boom to blame.

Every time I wander past Concorde House (LGW), I see more little herberts, that look like 'the milky bar kid', in 2 bars and orange lanyards.

Ruperts here; and he's having a ball!!:} Whats not to like; he's never had it so good. Kudos, Bar Med on Tuesday and no ones flushing his grid down the loo anymore!

Dan 98 9th April 2012 14:50

Anyone in TCX have any updates on whether these positions have been filled?

My application still says under review but i am thinking maybe i have been forgotten or they are keeping some applications in reserve in case people jump ship over the coming months to Ba / Virgin / EK? I don't have a 75/76 rating but 1800hrs on the B737...Seems late in the day now to get people on board for summer.:confused:


Cheers

BALLSOUT 9th April 2012 16:18

I know someone else still under revue Dan, lots of hours but none on 75/6. Probably as you suspect.

Honest Fr@nk 9th April 2012 17:10

Interviews were last week and there's some this week too. Those successful will be asked to attend a sim assessment in very early May. Start dates would be middle of May. So really its a 5-5 1/2 month contract. Those that were there when my mates mate went were all 757 rated, most with a few thousand hours on type.

Dan 98 9th April 2012 19:09

Thanks guys, i'm not going to be holding out for this one by the sounds of it!!!

Sussex Kestrel 10th April 2012 14:08

Indeed, D cubed. However, to potential summer slaves- a number of Capts are still awaiting outcomes or start dates elsewhere- with reserve captains moving back to the left seat in light of more captains leaving, boeing conversions by mostly pi$$ed off guys who don't know whether they're having a sh* t or a shave(number of tripline flights is huge) and history suggesting that the company's chances of getting the numbers right remain low to none, I would be hopeful that if you are looking for a job, then the slots are there. Numbers will never be confirmed- simply, they just don't know.

It seems the agency are obviously taking their cut- from the recruits themselves. No doubt. In which case a 'caveat emptor' exists. Good Luck. If you are lucky enough (:}) then it's better than a kick in the nads- just remember to tell yourself that on the night DLM.

Honest Fr@nk 10th April 2012 14:14

The agency is not "taking their cut". The agency will provide accomodation and transport as part of the package. So that looks like its being taken out of the salary. Whereas those going direct with TCX do not have accomodation or transport provided and it is up to the individual to sort out.

Sussex Kestrel 10th April 2012 14:24

So the agency is taking their cut then.

Agency used to recruit pilots. Agency not operating for free. New pilots on reduced salary(even pro rata). :=

Honest Fr@nk 10th April 2012 16:09

So how is the agency taking their cut?????
They pay basic pay of £3350/month, they pay accomodation and transport (rental car if required). If you go direct through TCX you get approx £4000/month and you sort out your own accomodation and transport.

Honest Fr@nk 10th April 2012 23:01

Oh dear. Have you not had sex for a while. Such aggresive tones from a low houred F/O. I don't work for an agency. I certainly dont have to explain my credentials to you or anyone else. Can you not accept what you are saying is wrong. What a great addition you would make on a flight deck. Can you not work out the the agency will pay basic and for accommodation and for transport. I guess you still live at your parents house and get your dad to drop you off as you seem to think the agency just throw those in. They do cost money, you know. How much could you get accomodation for in MAN or GLA?
And where have you got your facts from?
Oh, and they are not my figures. They are direct from TCX and Storm. I have seen them myself.

Go and felch yer boyfriend.

Sussex Kestrel 11th April 2012 00:10

Apologies for slight thread drift. Hope somebody can bring it back on track with useful information.

If I can offer one last bit of advise - don't be taken by 'onest frank. Take his words with a large pinch of salt.

"I guess you still live at your parents house and get your dad to drop you off as you seem to think the agency just throw those in. They do cost money, you know. How much could you get accomodation for in MAN or GLA"?

That seems to sum up his ignorance! :8

SK

Honest Fr@nk 11th April 2012 08:29

Ooooh. SFO eh. "Senior" First Officer who enjoys a spot of gliding. Will you ever make Capt with that attitude.
Why is it when someone comes on pprune to give some facts to the debate theres always a little oik who believes he is right no matter what. They never want to back down just because they have some misconception about something. Why dont you find the facts out instead of just assuming the agency is taking their cut out of the employees pay. I have the facts and here they are for all to see.

Duration:
5 months
Basic Payment:
£3,350.50 per calendar month pro rata
Duty Pay:
£3.28 per hour for all duties with 78p tax free
(subject to HMRC)
Overtime:
£311 to £759 dependent on length and time band of overtime
Days off per month:
10 days off per fixed 28 day blocks
Annual Leave Per Month:
4 days leave per month (for every 3 days leave taken one day off is reduced)
Ground Transportation:
Taxi or coach provided with option of hire car
Accommodation:
3 and 4 star hotels
Insurance:
Personal Accident and Business Travel in accordance with the Pilots Policies and Procedures document.

They are not taking their cut? And just because I've said that you think I'm management???? I guess you'll assume I work for Storm now. Far from it.
So before jumping in and start all the name calling get the facts.

CABUS 11th April 2012 10:08

Anyway.

I would imagine that TCX are going through and agency so they can have access to loads of type rated pilots. Rgds who is paying for it, I honestly don't think it really matters.

I hope we take on a good bunch of experienced guys and gals, not just those who paid for a rating and don't have any serious experience on it. I say this as it upsets me that the industry seems to be cutting out the old style progression from turbo to jet by just getting those who have paid for rating in the hope that one day they may get some line experience. Sadly with TCX only looking as far ahead as the end of their nose I can see why they won't pay for TR's for seasonal only contracts, even though there are still lots of F/O's and Skippers who are looking to jump ship over the coming year which would make the seasonal jobs perm.

Just my thoughts

Cabus

Just noticed Honest F's post.

I think there are few points there that have been put up incorrectly from the website you have cut and pasted that from. Just so you know

Honest Fr@nk 11th April 2012 10:24

Cabus,
That info was cut and pasted from an email attachment direct from storm. It is different from the storm website. The storm website states £39k + ground transportation.
Those that I know who attended on the first day of interviews last week were experienced 75/76 pilots. There was only one "low houred" guy.

fade to grey 11th April 2012 10:49

So is that £39k for the summer season, or 5 and a half months of that ?
I don't think there are many 75/76 rated people left - I reckon 70 % of the astraeus bunch are with monarch/jet2/gone to sandy land.

I hear from my man they are doing 2 interviews, and a sim test to qualify for this amazing 5 1/2 month package !

Honest Fr@nk 11th April 2012 11:08

£39k / 12 for your monthly rate if you go with Storm. They sort out hotel and accom ( according to the details sent to me). Or if you have gone direct to TCX by filling out their online application its closer to £50k / 12 and you sort your own accom and transport out.

A340rider 11th April 2012 17:18

Sussex Kestrel
 
For your info...

Felching:
A sexual practice involving the act of orally sucking semen out of the vagina or anus of one's partner after sex

frozenpilot 11th April 2012 20:03

It was only a matter of time...... Ha ha

Dan 98 11th April 2012 20:12

And i was just catching up on things whilst eating dinner......:eek:

Sussex Kestrel 11th April 2012 21:26

Felching
 
Bloody hell, so that's what you boys get up to. Glad I stay off the kinky stuff....? :eek:

Earlier posts deleted as I remain unsure of the real 'facts' regarding this deal. I will riposte in a few months when the 'real deal' has emerged and in full flow- probably not delivering what it said on the tin. They have history (agency).

Out, for now.

d71146 11th April 2012 21:43

Post#79
 
Well,you learn something every day ha.

macdo 12th April 2012 15:22

Must be a LGW pastime :ok: (tractor fleet?)


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