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Pablo_Diablo 26th January 2012 19:06

Calling all Ryanair and Brookfield staff
 
IALPA have just launched a initiative where all pilots have the opportunity to sign a form Committing To Unity.

Contact IALPA or visit REPA Frontpage for more details.

T668BFJ 27th January 2012 12:26

Done, everyone else show you want to take control of your careers and sign up

widered 27th January 2012 13:29

I sent mine here too...
Time to sort this place out!

doniedarko 27th January 2012 18:15

Well that's 3 of us :E....

TolTol 27th January 2012 18:29

Mine is gone also, come on people, get your fingures out, stop sitting on the side lines and man up.

donpedro 27th January 2012 22:11

Seems that unity is finally on the horizon for the FR pilots. :D

Keep up the good work guys, the rest of the aviation industry is watching!

This affects everyone, if the rot does not stop now, it will spread!

captjns 28th January 2012 01:49

Go the distance fellas. You are almost in position to score the goal:D:ok:!

Callsign Kilo 28th January 2012 03:08

What's the situation with this if you have just joined IALPA??

widered 28th January 2012 07:16

Callsignkilo this commitment sheet is for everyone to sign IALPA or not.

Pablo_Diablo 28th January 2012 10:18

This is a statement where each pilot commits to engage collectively agreeing to follow the majority under democratic principles for the future as well as joining a Professional Pilots Association.

McBruce 29th January 2012 03:27

Signed! spread the word to everyone you fly with!

Pablo_Diablo 29th January 2012 17:10

Signed it as well :)

737 Jockey 29th January 2012 18:31

Signed & sent! :ok:

Come on guys & girls....time for action not just words...less moan, more move!

This could be our last chance for some time..DO NOT miss it :=...as for sure, management won't miss another opportunity to shaft us good & proper. :eek::{

Good luck!

doniedarko 30th January 2012 07:08

Ryanair raises profit forecast - The Irish Times - Mon, Jan 30, 2012

Jet Fuel Addict 30th January 2012 07:54

SIGNED!!! :ok:

widered 30th January 2012 07:58

Half of that profit for Q3 was spent on a nice new shiny lear jet in a hanger in STN.

God forbid it could be spent on some pens and staplers and printers that work in the crewrooms.
:yuk:

captplaystation 30th January 2012 08:05

Never heard of the Lear, pray tell.

Making their way around Europe in the back of a "luxurious" B738 not good enough now for the "3 wise men" MOL/DOB/EW ?

RAT 5 30th January 2012 10:29

Pity the poor monkey who is on 24/7 SBY and only gets paid when it flies. Imagine an AOG, 1hr sector, wait there all day and eventually get your peanuts for 2 hrs flying. Pray tell who would want such a life?

monkeyferret777 30th January 2012 15:32

signed. sent.

Jimmy Hoffa Rocks 3rd February 2012 10:04

Ryanair Pilots in Spain
 
Yes I can sense it, as a ninja would

In Racoonair in Spain.

The seeds have been sowed.
Sprouts are starting and it will soon be spring.

The pilots are starting to get organized.

SEPLA is throwing their support behind Ryanair pilots in Spain.

People forget that although their contracts are Irish the courts in Spain have Spanish judges.

Racoonair played a big part in the closure of Spanair, many Spaniards are pissed off.

In Barcelona Apparently there is a German base captain who is not to be trusted ? or ?

SEPLA is involved in the shadows.

When the new Brookfield contracts are forced upon.

Let there be light !

captplaystation 3rd February 2012 16:06

Jimmy, a word to the wise, anyone involved in inviting SEPLA into the mix, or trying to act as an intermediary, should tread only "in the shadows".
Many of your "colleagues" will sell you down the river to win Brownie points, & should Ryanair decide (whether they are correct or not) that someone is agitating for Union Involvement, look forward to a free transfer out of Spain.
Any Union involvement on a unilateral basis has been dealt with in the past by moving the "perpetrators", either away, or in extreme (Martin Duffy) cases , out the door. Do not for one minute expect clean play from the other side, & do NOT put your head above the parapet. Careless talk costs lives, & some who you think are "on side", may be the complete opposite.
As most (78% ? ) of pilots are now "Service Providers" it is all too easy for them to decline your offer of provision of service, or to suggest that you would be better providing it in Kaunas/PIK or some other distinctly "Non Spanish" local.
If SEPLA do get involved, one of the first items on the agenda will be the legality of "Service Providers" & non payment of social contributions by Ryanair (& perhaps you too) Be careful what you wish for.

For this reason, it is probably wise not to lose focus by heading down the "Local" pilots association route & instead concentrate on doing what everyone on here is pleading you to do. Join the Pilots Association appropriate to your CONTRACT (not base of operation/country of residence, but country of CONTRACT) use REPA as the communication medium it is provided to be. Attend meetings if they are organised & you are available.
You do not have to hide in the shadows & refuse/deny interest in anything to do with a Union, but company history has shown it is not wise to be identified as a "leader" in any movement, sacrificial lambs are not needed, and past history has also shown too clearly that your colleagues will not sacrifice themselves to have you re-instated. Be realistic about what you (the individual) can realistically achieve by putting your head above the parapet.
With some determination/organisation the day may yet come to fight, but only on a united front, not in a way that you can be picked off, either as individuals, or as a "trouble-making" base.
3000 troops is formidable, 50 or so at one base is "easy meat" for the Savages you are up against.

Unity Unity Unity. . . . where have I heard that before ? had it been adopted when it should have been, years , nay decades ago, you wouldn't be in the shat you are in now, & I would be more optimistic of you pulling it off than I am now.

Prove me wrong, I would love you to, as we all suffer in this career for the cr@p they have fed you (formerly me too) for too many years.
It will be difficult enough to get Ryanair to recognise one Union, don't start believing that SEPLA is going to ride in like Don Quixote to save you all. Looking at the even sh1ttier terms & conditions "enjoyed" in Vueling should disabuse you of any illusions you have in this direction.

lear999wa 4th February 2012 21:59

Ryr management are complaining about how hard times are, and how they have only been able to make 400 million euros this year. And how that number should have been 800 million instead. They have found the time to purchess a new Learjet. And all the while they make cabin crew take multiple mounths of unpaid leave.
These guys just have no idea, how soure there relationship is becoming between mgmt and the workforce.

Sky Goose 5th February 2012 08:21

Signed and sent.

benyfly 5th February 2012 10:54

signed and sent..dont bother to complain if ya havent

captjns 5th February 2012 10:55

A new Lear?!?:eek: Do the seats recline? Pax have to buy food onboard? Any pictures?

WallyWumpus 5th February 2012 13:30

Signed and sent. I think things can be better in RYR.

Pablo_Diablo 8th February 2012 20:04

The President of the ECA expresses his support to FR pilots!
 
The president of the European Cockpit Association has expressed his support for the Ryanair pilots in becoming organized.

Read the entire letter from the ECA on REPA Frontpage

FRying 8th February 2012 20:20

Now I'm getting hope again for this profession...:ok:
Well done gentlemen !

Kernow 101 9th February 2012 07:20


p.s almost 2200 members on the Ryanair pilots forum now, if even half them are signing the commitment to unity form then Ryanair management have right to be very worried.
Or even if half that figure are still there :E:E and then half that again for the sign up sheet..........still positive though :ok::ok:

AF jockey 9th February 2012 07:38

Good good good !

TDK mk2 9th February 2012 09:11

Good luck Ryanair pilots, steel yourselves for a messy opening battle in a protracted and probably dirty war, but it will surely be worth it and all pilots in Europe will benefit from your determination to seek a better way to be employed.

16024 10th February 2012 11:57


I heard a rumour that the base captain in Dublin is now actively recruiting for permanent positions on an anti-union team to start intimidating people about IALPA/BALPA!!
Base captains are required to spend their time ensuring regulatory compliance, and dealing with operational and safety issues.

So I must assume yer man is putting in free overtime, if this is true!!!

beernice 11th February 2012 07:25

Quote:
"Base captains are required to spend their time ensuring regulatory compliance, and dealing with operational and safety issues."

Ah yes but all management pilots including the chief pilot answer directly to director of Flight Operations, a man with no aviation qualifications to his name.

beernice 11th February 2012 07:45

Quote

"I heard a rumour that the base captain in Dublin is now actively recruiting for permanent positions on an anti-union team to start intimidating people about IALPA/BALPA!! We are definitely making progress!!!

no surprise to senior pilots, important that new FOs know exactly how these bullying tricks work."

A base captain can only run a base with the cooperation of his captains. If its not working out its easier to replace the base captain. Guys you know what to do.
By the way Brookfield FO's cannot be brought in for office duty without payment. If this is happening to you demand payment and back pay for any days you have done. FR contract guys can be brought in because their basic covers it and it's in the contract. However about 95%of FO's are BRK.

BALLSOUT 11th February 2012 09:51


FR contract guys can be brought in because their basic covers it and it's in the contract. However about 95%of FO's are BRK.
Wrong! If you are employed by Ryanair, you qualify for a ground duty payment for such duties. I think it's Ģ50.

Pablo_Diablo 14th February 2012 20:50

The Countdown has begun!
 
The Deadline for signing the Commitment for Unity Form is set for the 20th February.

Please ensure everyone is informed, and if you havenīt already done so yourself, sign the form and send it to IALPA according to the instructions given.

Please visit REPA Frontpage or contact IALPA for more details.


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