Ryanair flying hours
 

Without starting another debate on whether SSTR's are moral or ethical (there are enough of those going on elsewhere), can some people who actually work for Ryanair please try and answer the following. Once the TR course has finished, are you actually guaranteed any hours? Also, how many hours per month average do you get? Thanks in advance. Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but all of the Ryanair threads seem to end up in a highly opinionated debate which hides the useful information :rolleyes:.

Simply answered as,

1. No your are not guaranteed any hours.

2. Amount of hours depends on how cheap, base, time of year etc. Can range from 20ish to over 100.

Totally agree with Edymonster
Over the last three years my hours (UK base on 5/4) have ranged from 35 to 110 but normally in the high 60's to low 80's.

Hope that helps

tabu

Thanks guys that does help :ok:

I've been in RYR two years from the end of Nov 2008. I've done 1700 hrs since then. I obviously did a bit more per month during line training and until I had 500 hrs on type whereby my pay went up.

From April 09 - March 10 I did 780 hrs (900 max between this period, as RYR works out the 900 hrs on a calendar year instead of a rolling 12 months).

From April 10 - March 11 I'm on course to do the same - so far I've done 680 hrs, with 2 months left until end of March.

I would add, I think mainland European bases tend to fly a bit more. I'm based in Spain and I've english friends who were trying extremely hard to be based in the UK after line training, who got their request, and are 400 hrs down then what I have now.

Food for thought (400 hrs at 80 (ish) euro/hr is 32k euro and 400 hrs less experience!!

Enjoy

400hrs more then your mates..........32k better off!

Time at home with the wife, kids or girlfriend on those ow so frequent standbys...................Priceless!!!

Food for thought :ok:

This year 750 hours, UK based F/O, total time on the 737 just over 2,000, started flying at the business end in June 2008.

You fly when your needed not based on your pay scale! At times it's hard to believe, but if you compare yourself to pilots in your base, you will end up within 50hrs of everyone! That's the case here, my friend based in a large London base who started about 2 weeks ahead of me on the line, is easily 150 if not more ahead of me in jet time..

Go figure all a bit of luck!

Totally agree. Lots of people will tell you that you fly less as you get paid more. In my experience that's totally untrue. This would also mean that there was some kind of plan or organisation in your roster. There isn't. Rostering don't have the time or the inclination, they're just firefighting most of the time.
There are no guarantees - much depends on your base but even then you can expect plenty of out of base time to make up the hours. You can expect to fly a fair number of hours when all is said and done. From what people tell me, the average is 700-750 per year in your logbook (ie you are usually paid for more than that).

Unfortunately I put more hours in my logbook then what I get paid. But that's what you get for being in the worst ryr base- Extremely long
Taxi time, always holding, lots of slots and no shortcut's. No prizes for guessing where!!!

Yep, the above is all true.

700-750 in the first year. That's about 70 a month on average at a North European base, bearing in mind in reality you only work 10 months a year. Friends in Southern Europe are all regularly doing 90-100 hours but I never got more than 80.

And I've noticed I always get paid slightly more than I expect. :p

No guarantees on hours. Word on the street is that PB uses a computer programme to bring pilots in each base to within 5% of each other. That can still lead to some huge variations. Also, you can expect more standbys at a small base.

Some raw data:
 

From Ryanair's SEC filing.

Ryanair contract: Basic pay is "negotiated" yearly. Not sure about sector pay. Basic is dependant on your main base. Basic income is guaranteed so you could see it as a minimum income in case you wouldn't do any flying at all.

Brookfield contract: No guarantees of any kind.

Are Brookfielders still getting a 20 Euro per hour override for flying out of base?

Captjns,

Yes, we are.

A bit off topic (sorry) but if you are given a non UK base, do FR help in any way with finding accommodation, even if it's just a list of places near to the airport or are you on your own ?

Help from RYR? HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA, I don't mean to be rude, but seriously???

I thought it was a long shot but decided to gamble and ask the question anyway.

Wantabe,

Well word is there opening a base in Marrakech this year so I would say thats a pretty good guess.

Enjoy!

It doesn't cost the company to have 10% or more FO's than required so the days of flying a planned 900 hours are gone and is only used as a selling point to unsuspecting cadets. Some exceptions will exist in bases which are particularly busy but this is not normal across the board.

Accomodation
 

Northern Flyer,

In response to your question, there is base and accommodation info for all the RYR bases on the crewdock website. I believe they are compiled by either the base captain or base supervisor for each respective base. That however, is where it ends. The rest is up to you, especially paying for it! That said, you do get an extra EUR 20 per scheduled block hour if you're Brookfield and out of your home base.

Just as an example,

I am UK based and have been since Line Training (aside from 2 weeks in MRS). A friend started at the same time as me, trained in LTN, was then BRS based and is now in NRN. He is 200 hrs better of than me which at the current rate is 14,100 euro over 18 months or 9,400 a year.

Its a trade of I guess with more money abroad or less at home. Then again I think all new guys are being based in the canaries or the other new bases.

good luck all :ok: