are the figures posted on ppjn what one would be looking at? what would the differences be for ROI, UK based pilots? Thanks for your replies

Only today I got the receipt to the e-mail I sent on the 21st...

"Your message was read on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:49:10 PM (GMT)"

Dear Santa

I know you are really busy at this time of the year so please don't take up too much time with an interview at AL...just a job offer from them would be great...go on...you know it makes sense.;)
I have been really good all year...and my Mum says that you will be in real trouble if you let me down.

Mailed Application
 

I sent my application from here in Belgium to EI via mail (snail mail!) because of the my scanner is u/s! I sent it on Nov. 20th and as of yet have not received any acknowledgment from EI.
Has anyone else sent the application via mail as opposed to email?
Thanks.

Yep, I did and no reply either as yet......

HW

Me too, no reply yet.

Likewise Muvo

That's funny :ok: Airperator.. hahaha

Maybe a good idea to send your app via secure post. That way it can be tracked and you're pretty much guaranteed it will arrive at the address you sent it to. If you have'nt then I suggest you give The HR Dept a quick call, just for POM. Application gives 10th Dec closing date so I guess they have a !!!! load of applications to process. Sit tight, I guess you guys will hear something soon. Anyone know if EI provide a bond agreement or is it mastercard only !

You're not the only one confused. Given that the application process is not yet complete, I suspect that they may have probed some of the schools for the right stuff in addition to wanting to hire experience.

What makes me laugh is their great effort to show that they are an equal opps employer on the application form. However, if rumours are to be believed, the reality is the usual nudge and wink via the same old networks is the real requirement.

As mentioned earlier, the application form asked for such basic details that I cant see how anybody can stand out if they are a 200 hr newbie.

EK

Agree.

It's so basic it's probably just a HR arse covering exercise - the old boy FTO network will provide the actual numbers :E

Right-o, I've been called for interview pretty soon and can't find any info on what questions to expect and what to brush up on. I've been fairly proactive and I'm brushing up on all ATPL subjects and the Airbus tech stuff. Also Aer Lingus history and whatever else.

I would however thank anyone who's been through the grinder recently if they could provide some information to focus my studies.

Thanks!

-Polo

Polo

What's your background if you don't mind me asking? (hrs/type etc)

Actually they have and I have been around long enough to see it. It is easier to ask a respected FTO with whom you placed cadets previously to recommend a few of the better individuals and avoid having to wade through reams of CVs from hopeful wannabees. But you are correct there is no network as such. The individuals concerned had no link to AL. But it never does any harm to have a good reference from within or from certain FTOs. But Aer Lingus is not unique in that.

There are also known for favouring integrated over modular when hiring recent graduates. They are of course entitled to do so. That's just a heads up for applicants. Doesn't apply to experienced type rated pilots.

To anyone that's been invited to interview so far could you tell me whether you were invited via email or over the phone? I've had a number of phone calls from 'Unknown' numbers over the last couple of days and as a matter of course I never answer these, just wondering if I need to start doing so now?

Total pish. Over the last years they have been bringing in a mix of ab-initio, zero time peeps and some already with time and ratings.

AL have a long history of giving new starters their first leg up into the industry, quite honourable. I'm just sorry I missed out when I first started off.

I've been a really good boy this year though, fingers crossed Santa comes through this time! Best of luck to all in the system!

Alt Crz Green,

Chill out.

I make a simple point; the information requested on the application form is so minimal that there cannot be any meaningful way of selecting one 200hr applicant from another. As there ARE low houred guys being called up, there must be some other selection criteria being favoured. The strong suspicion is that you need to have gone to the right school(s). This is the 'network' of which I speak.

As mentioned earlier, that's fine. Except (as was my point) they bang on about equal opps and a transparent selection process. Which is clearly not the case. Its just management speak and HR drivel. I think there is very little doubt that this is the case.

If your age is to be believed, you are obviously too old to remember several FOs that EI have taken from said schools with 170hrs NOT on a cadet scheme in recent years. Just take a look at their stats.

I'm really not too sure why you contest this obvious point and get so uptight about it?

EK

EKs argument is both logical and in all probability correct

Alt Crz Green - 0, Young Wannabes Utd - 2

You are right though Alt Crz Green, generally there is no prior connection to ALT as I made clear in my posts. But it's no secret that they can and do cherrypick to suit their own idea of what constitutes an Aer Lingus pilot. No conspiracies. It's just the way it's done.