There are no complex cashflow theories in my mind. I´m just slightly worried if this job offer will be serious or they're too optimistic collecting CVs but dealing with own troubles. There aren't many companies expanding in the region by now.

Fandak,

Just because you have not been called YET for interview, does not mean WIZZ are in trouble.

As I see it, we are well run, have good loads, a cost base under control and a bright future. If that turns out to be incorrect, then I will be very sorry, but I think we will be ok.

Wizz are 5 and 1/2 years old. We have 26 aircraft. Thats not exactly manic expansion is it? The 10 aircraft for delivery in 2010 are to supplement existing markets and to take advantage of other airlines vacating certain markets (Sky Europe in PRG for example). Also, it is generally a good idea to expand as a recession ends..... and thats what we are doing....

So, to summarize, Wizz are interviewing as we need people. We have 10 aircraft to crew next YEAR, not next WEEK!!! The guys who do the interviewing, who I know personally are also very busy flying the line and managing fleets and bases..... your interview may have to wait a while longer.

But, if you want to join Wizz, sit tight and stop spreading nonsense on here.

Good luck when you get invited for interview.

Well said Stansdead!!

All genuine pilots will want airlines and air operators to do well. If you spread unfounded rumours, eventually in these delicate times when margins and cashflows are tight, and investor confidence is fragile, such rumours could become self-fulfilling prophecies.

Surely we all want Wizzair to do well. It benefits all of us. Most of us come to read the threads in PPRUNE because we want facts. So please everyone please don't spread false rumours.

I for one want to encourage Wizzair's progression. Maybe they are doing things differently, maybe they have an excellent business model.

Thank you again to Stansdead for bringing some informed opinion to this thread.

Mrpilot :ok:

stansdead,

Do you know where the selection takes place and its organization (tests, interviews, sim check...) ?

Thanks

I agree it's well said. I didn't want to offend you or the company. That I wasn't contacted surely doesn't mean that Wizz are in trouble. I just said "it's rumoured", it was not my fabrication, but I agree these rumours are easily spreading and hard to disprove by involved people.

The fact is that I had no such information that Stansdead wrote above and it could made me impatient. I passed my application few months ago and I would appreciate at least some "stay tuned" email.

Stansdead is on holiday. Don't expect a reply for at least a week:ok:
As far as interviews etc go, be patient, the company has many applicants. Phone interviews are happening right now but they all take time. Good luck all those applying:)

"Holiday, it would be so nice, just to have a holiday....."

Madonna (circa 1985), I believe.

Which kind of interview can we expect?Both for the phone call and face to face

regards :ok:

Tell me mrPilot
 

"Surely we all want Wizzair to do well. It benefits all of us."

How do we all benefit from seeing t & c:s degenerate down to what is described above?? When a type rated experienced pilot is offered 1400€ / month for flying advanced jets, and doing so near the max. allowed flight time / year.

I would rather say that we suffer from their success:ugh:

Skyfly does have a point... Unfortunately a lot of airlines, easyjet being the latest one, now uses Wizzair pay scales as benchmarks for their pay negotiations. :eek:
The "legacy" carriers will be the next ones to follow, they have to to be able to compete. Just look at what has been going on at Aer Lingus.

Good luck to all of us.

CP

I agree Captain Prop
 

And this is all happening while guys like mrpilot are singing hallelujah to their success.

"I for one want to encourage Wizzair's progression. Maybe they are doing things differently, maybe they have an excellent business model."

Of course it's an excellent business model to get qualified personell working their a*s off for peanuts. :D

interview
 

Had my phone interview last week:
1. Conducted professionally over the phone by a Wizz Air Captain.
2. Lasted about 15 min.
3. He verified my submitted details.
4. Asked me some general JAR + Airbus questions (I am Airbus rated).
5. An easy prioritization question.
6. Tested my knowledge of Wizz Air.
Finally told me I passed successfully and will be contacted in due course for the next interview by the Chief pilot.
Good luck to all!
:ok:

"How do we all benefit from seeing t & c:s degenerate down to what is described above?? When a type rated experienced pilot is offered 1400€ / month for flying advanced jets, and doing so near the max. allowed flight time / year.

I would rather say that we suffer from their success"



Look for Wizzair standards to be the norm Europe wide in the future. And also look for people to tell you how lucky you are to be even given the such an oppurtunity to whore yourself for such "prestigious" work.

I'll chop off my nuts to fly a jet, how about yourself?

I'm going through some crap myself to find greener pastures... but there are limits everywhere. Some of the crap that is happening is purely ridiculous, and once it happens on a wide scale, your only option is to either accept it, or leave the industry, PERIOD. Too many people watching movies like "Catch me if you can" , and "The right stuff" and "Top Gun". Those days are OVER.

Welcome to today... My name is Bob, I will do your work for less. :ok:

****ing LCCs :mad:

:yuk:

And that's exactly what they expect from you.. also knowing you'll be more than happy to accept it. :*

Wizz Air DEC - Pay to Play.....
 

Dear Pilot,

Our partner Wizz Air is looking for experienced pilots on FAR-25 aircrafts for direct entry command on Airbus A320 (immediate start).

Recruitment , Assessment and Training

The airlines assessment involves a personal interview followed by a simulator screening. After successful completion a contract will be offered. The self-funded training will be completed at Cockpit4u training center, Berlin-Germany. Training costs include the type rating A320, operator course, performance course, low visibility, OPC, LPC and base training. Program pricing is around 21.600 EUR.

Requirements

Total 3500 factorized hours*

- 1500 hrs as Commander on FAR-25 aircrafts;

- ATPL (JAR or national/ICAO license);

- Right to live and work without additional permits in EU;

- Hold an English proficiency check level 4 or above.

*Factorized hours

Wizz Air applies factors to pilot flying hours to determine minimum requirements for Commanders. A pilot's hours flown in each category are multiplied by the applicable factor from the below table. The sum of all groups after factorisation will be used to determine whether the pilot meets the minimum required experience.

Application

Suitable candidates should apply online:
Wizz Air

Sick
 

"Program pricing is around 21.600 EUR."

I think i'm gonna vomit!:yuk:

It's time to bail out.
Leave this crappy industry of prostitutes and pimps, and get a decent job where work will pay :{

haha

What a deal. :ok:

Yeah i bet guys are going to be jumping at that awesome opportunity :)

Whilst in no way condoning the practice of self funded ratings, and neither wishing to p1ss on your parade, I nonetheless should point out that the "darling" of the aviation industry Ryanair, charge 30,000€ (or was it 33? ) for a B738 rating NOT including accomodation etc etc.
So, deplorable ? yes, but pretty much standard practice in these depleted times, and at least they don't exaggerate TOO much with the price.
One could even argue that it isn't a bad investment (and hopefully a job to boot) for an unemployed 737 (or whatever) driver ?

ryan, easy and now wizz's practices should be banned by EU. What the hell is going on these days? I am without a job right now but if offered to pay 20kEUR for the type and then be paid 1400EUR for some time, I would say: f!@# yourself! I am not a whore.

Anybody know how much they are paying the DEC.......

PPJN says 36000 Euro+ 60 per leg min 400 legs - but that is only after confirmed on line (after 6 months on line I think). And having already paid 15000 euros and the rest towards type rating etc.
Appalling is all I can say.
But you do get a crew meal on the days you work. That must make all the difference.

This WAS very good money in the former existence of countries like Romania etc, but of course now it is cr@p, albeit more than most earn.
My significant other's brother is a Prof in a university in Bucuresti, he earns about 350€ a month. A nice appartment is about 1000€ a month AFAIK, so we are in the same sh1t as everyone else . . . nearly.
In my current home country the average wage for someone in a normal job is around 900€, a two bedroomed apartment cost 500-600€ a month to rent. Supermarket prices are higher than in neighbouring France, crap schools, crap health care, pay to use the Autovia, well, the sun shines at least.
Can't help thinking that our life in Europe now, isn't just a trial to acclimatise us to the cr@p we will live when we are finally taken over by the Chinese.
Cynical ? Moi ? You bet :hmm:

Any info about tipical roster patterns?Any chance for commuting?Do they overnight or do they return to homebase everyday?
Thanks :ok:

6 on 4 off or 6-1-6-7 - your choice. Commuting is straightforward and office are helpful with accomodating this.

Almost always return to base - Katowice is the only exception as far as I know.

Is it a tipical early&late roster?

Pretty much yes - a flexible approach is always helpful and again, it depends on base.

Sorry no - can't tell you anything concrete - best of luck if you've applied though.

The same risk you took in the beginning if you were not one of the fortunate few trained and nurtured by a legacy airline/military force and had to pay for your own licence.
No risk = no progress in this current stagnant market.
I don't agree with it, or indeed like it, but I sure as hell can understand anyone going for it.

does anyone know if wizz air accepts resumes from pilots that have permit to work in Europe and have FAA license?

Without knowing particular for WizzAir, I would say the answer is a resounding NO.

You do not have the right to fly commercially in the EU without a JAA license. It may be possible to get a validation for 1 year, but why in the world would WizzAir want to hire someone with a temporary validation, when there are a boatload of qualified pilots looking for work.

You want to work for WizzAir then you have to sit the JAA exams, depending on your experience.

Hi folks

It looks like people are quoting my earlier post and applying those quotes to matters that I wasn't referring to.

We do benefit if an operator soaks up some of the surplus unemployed pilots who are willing to work in central and eastern Europe.

I don't know anything about the 1400 euros per month payment. If that is correct then it does sound very low. Someone else mentioned a package worth 60,000 euros which does not sound appalling even if it is not brilliant. If you can earn 60,000 euros and not have to part with cash for a type-rating then surely that is not bad. I appreciate that it may not be a good rate for a highly experienced pilot with many hours on type already but there don't appear to be any hard facts supporting exactly what is on offer at the moment.

In other professions, including accountancy, people are having to accept pay reductions right now. It is not just happening in aviation. It is a terrible time all round. The world is constantly changing in terms of economics.

The cockpit4u offer whereby you pay 21,600 euros (or thereabouts) seems pointless as Wizzair's own offer does not require the pilot to part with cash. There is a bond of 15,000 euros.

I don't support deterioration of pilot terms and conditions but I still think we don't have the full facts to hand just yet. I do know that Wizzair don't require the pilot to part with their own cash. Wizzair wanted to avoid the costs of using agencies....that is how it would appear and that does make good business sense.

Ultimately this is all conjecture until we know exactly what is offered.

Mr pilot,

You do need to pay 15000 Euros for the type rating with Wizz air.

Your monthly salary is reduced by 1000 Euros for the first 15 months after you have passed the line check. This is why a co pilot caches net 1400 Euros per month in Wizz Poland during 15 months, however before the line check you have been making peanuts as well due to the training salary.

A Wizz co pilot here in Poland, with no remaining bond to pay, takes home in Polish Zloty on average a month, everything included, between 8000-10000 Zloty. (depending if you're junior or senior co pilot, how many sectors flown etc)

On top of this, what you're saying Mr pilot, yes you need to sign a type rating bond of 15000 Euros over a three year period.

ATR 250

Yeah basically what ATR said in the post above means, you pay 15K for the endo, deducted through your salary for the first 15months and ALSO, your bonded for the other 15K for the next 3 yrs... its one hell of a deal :) :ok:

Sorry guys...

but I suppose that this training costs does not apply to Type Rated guys like me, that are currently flying no??

i don't mind being bonded, but I would not like to be charged for a training I've made already... i'm TR with 900h on type, currently employed 1200 total and CATII/III certified... why should I pay anything... If I can start flying tomorrow if they want.

Sorry glapira - they don't

Hi All,

Is Wizz Air still doing the interviews or it is over now??

I think the info i got was if you havent heard by end of dec then you can re-submit your application, then sit and wait for another year to go by.

Still ongoing. Just slowed down during xmas/new year. Will resume soon.

:ok: