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babemagnet 25th May 2009 17:25

Cityjet sacking pilots!
 
Cityjet just sacked a collegue of mine 1 of the best Captains in Cityjet! He just failed 1 linecheck (because he had a bad day) and they did not gave him a second chance! If the economy goes up i will leave this :mad: ASAP!

blackred1443 25th May 2009 17:37

i take it he wasnt an aer corps legend then.cityjet mamangement were never know from their people management skills.strange that 2 training captains in cityjet screw up big time, one forgot to declare a mayday on an incapacitation the other forgot to transition to 1013 on a sid out of cdg.both got promoted.both coincidentally were aer corps.fantastic!! at least you realise the best move is any move that takes you away from cityjet.amazing the amount of people that think its an alright place to be.all the best with the move

BBT 25th May 2009 17:44

If it was as you describe it I hope he is a member of IALPA and gets himself some help. Should not be much of a problem for IALPA to give CJ a lot of grief if it is as you describe it.

I personally have met two pilots employed by CJ who had "issues" with management. They do seem to be especially blinkered and narrow of vision (and don't do "fair play" as a result).

seasexsun 25th May 2009 18:06

This is quite comon in !!!!tyjet. First Officers have to suck the ass of their training captains or TRE or Managers otherwise they know they will be on the blacklist for the command upgrade. Lots of managers captains in !!!!tyjet smell the pints or whiskey from their breath when they are on duty, but once again, if you are the FO, just shut up or you will fail your next sim and will never be promoted to the left hand seat.

Good point though, you get the discounts on Airfrance tickets (when there are some seats available for you) :)

sickoftheWXbashers 25th May 2009 18:31

BABEMAGNET.

Funny that on the 29th March this year, you told us that you worked for Ryanair - yet now you work for CityJet. I quote:

'I am with Ryanair for 6 years plus and i am on a ryanair contract i have been sick for 3 months and i do not get back any money from the Irish goverment its a joke! I have been paying social welfare fees (prsi) for 6 years. They just do not reply on my request for money! thats what i am telling'

People like you give schizophrenics a bad name.

However, I do not know the circumstances surrounding your friend, but I suspect, strongly, that there was more to it than one failed line check.

You should ask him!

SEASEXSUN

Keep it up. Everytime you contribute to a CityJet thread, you do the management a big favour with your idiotic rants. Perhaps you are a management dupe?

joehunt 26th May 2009 03:34

blackred1443

"that 2 training captains in cityjet screw up big time, one forgot to declare a mayday on an incapacitation the other forgot to transition to 1013 on a sid out of cdg."

Screwed up big time?

Come on man, get a grip on reality. So they forgot to set STD at TA, so what. If he called for the appropriate checklist at the time, that mistake would have been picked up. If he called for the checklist and the mistake wasn't picked up, then it is a poorly designed checklist. If the checklist wasn't called for at the appropriate time, the PNF should have reminded him. Not calling for the checklist to be read is worse than a simple altimeter error. Let's face it, we are not taking about an initial IR flight test here are we?

So he forgot to call mayday. Hardly a hanging offence is it? ATC would normally ask if the PF wanted to declare an emergency in any event as he would be in contact with ATC.

sisyphos 26th May 2009 04:08

not really part of the threat, but somebody mentioned a forgotten mayday call with incapacitation above.
what use would be a may day call anyway??? doesn't bring the guy next to you back, the a/c is still perfectly flyable, so why bother? you request priority and help on ground, all fine. I think your check & training department has lost it completely..:suspect:

Mud Skipper 26th May 2009 07:07

Hmmm, with you sisyhos, it's defiantly justified a PAN call but as the aircraft was in no immediate danger then why a MAYDAY?

Unless of course they don't consider the other pilot is capable of operating the aircraft single pilot - that a whole different issue.:hmm:

captjns 26th May 2009 07:45

Company management has a talent to manage, whom they deem to be malevolent malcontents, off the property via the line check, LPC, or excessive number of demerits, to name a few.

There is an abundant supply of gnomes, you know the little brown nosers, who will do the company’s bidding.

These little gnomes provide a buffer between the targeted employee and management, thus protecting those miscreants in their ivory towers.

As the old saying goes… same airline different paint job.


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