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12435 30th January 2009 14:50

Airline pilots purchasing power
 
Hi, I am writing an article for our union paper, and would like to highlight the loss of purchasing power our profession has suffered over the decades.
Perhaps somebody can help me out here:

I am trying to locate a list/graph I've seen before (perhaps in an ALPA magazine) that compares the income/purchase power of airline pilots in NA over the decades:

- 1950s - a months pay could buy you a house
- 1960s - a 2 months pay could buy you house
- 1970s - a months pay could buy you a car
and so on

Anyone remember seeing that somewhere?
Thanks for your help.


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v6g 30th January 2009 16:41

It would be interesting to see the numbers compared with the relevant risk, skill & judgement required for the job at a particular time.

johnnyDB 30th January 2009 17:22

They used to get payed? :8

mona lot 30th January 2009 17:53

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~lkontor/blogtex/margin.jpg

RED WINGS 30th January 2009 18:18

1990's A months pay could buy you a motorcycle

2000's A months pay could buy you a push bike

:rolleyes:

IRRenewal 30th January 2009 20:45


- 1950s - a months pay could buy you a house
Really? Sounds like pilots back then used to be well overpaid.

fastfly69 30th January 2009 21:22

- 1950s - a months pay could buy you a house
- 1960s - a 2 months pay could buy you house
- 1970s - a months pay could buy you a car

......

- 2009 - a months pay could barely pay the mortgage....:*

fireflybob 30th January 2009 21:56

One criteria I think is good when comparing employers/professions/countries etc is the unit of time one has to work for to earn a unit of capacity of petrol at the pumps! (ie how many seconds/minutes one has to work to earn a litre of petrol).

beachbumflyer 31st January 2009 04:18

2010- you pay to work for the first six months.

kriskross 31st January 2009 12:53

It will be inversely proportional to what politicians are paid.

Nice flaps 31st January 2009 16:24


A months pay could buy you a push bike
Crikey, you must work for a legacy carrier... :}

avionneta 31st January 2009 16:41

Everybody is able to fly an A320 I'm afraid and it's been a major reason, unless the one, to explain among other issues the fall of pilots salaries. And it's not going to stop.
but for a clerk job, armchair + table, in a flying office, spending time to monitor automatisms is it finally so low ? not at all

JW411 31st January 2009 16:52

First of all, 12435 is actually asking for figures about pilots working in NA. Now I presume that this means North America (as opposed to Not Available).

I worked for a (fairly notorious) Part 121 carrier based at JFK as a DC-10 check airman and I was paid $68 per block hour in the 1980s (with a 50-hour guaranteed month).

In different money, my salary whilst training on the DC-10 with Fred Laker was £4500 pa. I can well remember coming out of the hotel in Bangor, Maine and seeing the photographs on the front page of the newspapers of the AA DC-10 disaster at ORD (1979) and wondering if I had made a very bad career move!

As it worked out, things worked out OK and I ended up being paid £7500 pa as a fully qualified DC-10 F/O.

You could in no way have bought a house for even my annual salary. If my memory serves me right, a 3-bedroomed house in Sussex at that time cost at least 4 times my annual salary.

12435 2nd February 2009 01:19

http://forum.acpa.ca/forum/uploads/R..._of_living.jpg

wasteofcargospace 2nd February 2009 09:37

Wow
Looks like the 30s was a good time to be a pilot. Being paid more than a doctor!!! As mentioned before it may have been due to the higher skill required to fly the early types of airliners.

Gnirren 2nd February 2009 09:49

Yeah and if you extend that line of thought into the future what will the technological advances bring?

3 buttons to be used in an emergency and a salary roughly equal to that of an office clerk (except for the first 2 years of course, when you will be paying them).

Great times ahead :ok:

RED WINGS 2nd February 2009 17:45

wow 30's were the day!!! Notice the congressmen still got paid more for screwing up the world:}

beachbumflyer 2nd February 2009 22:58

Yeah, but how often airline pilots got killed in accidents in the 30's

12435 3rd February 2009 03:22

Lads, we should make even more today for killing fewer people!
Get real, flying today is simpler????
Anyhow, thought I'd give it a shot here. Thanks

johnnyDB 5th February 2009 12:13

yeah back then, every day at the office might have been your last :ok:


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