Sigma now say on their latest plea for candidates :{ (on flightglobal .com) that the positions for F/O on B737/A320 are ·" commuting", but don't claim that those for Capts for these types would be, only the long-haul types, as previously promised, are shown as 3wks on/1 wk off.

Are they assuming that all us LH seat bods are bitter divorced old (youngish? :rolleyes: ) men that don't want to go home ? :hmm:

Nato
 

You need to go out more often ! Get a live man what a lots of .... have you not heard of "two nations divided by a common language"

First officer
 

Anyone got any information on what to study or prepare for the Thy assessment?

This is the schedule..im going next month.

Day One

Travel to Istanbul and stay in hotel overnight

Day Two

You will be required to attend the THY HQ building. In the morning all your documents will be checked and all
necessary paperwork completed. You will then undertake either a verbal or written technical examination.
In the afternoon part of the group of candidates will attend a SIM assessment.

Day Three

The remaining group will undertake the SIM test.

Day Four

A one to one interview will be conducted. The THY panel will consist of both Flight Operations Management
personnel and HR Management personnel.
You will also be required to undertake a Psychometric and Psychomotor test as part of the assessment.

Day Five

Hotel / Flight home- successful candidates may be required to extend their stay in Istanbul to attend the local

police station to complete the residency permit.

Happy to hear from somebody who already went:)

It has possibly changed since beginning of 2009 but at that stage the important point were. . . learn how to politely enjoy a nice tea around the table whilst having a friendly chat with 6 men, only one of whom had a reasonable grasp of English.
If you are going for 737/A320 don't use the C - word (commuting:= :oh: )

Forget all that crummy crm/methodic completion of checklists stuff that stood you in good stead in all those sim checks you have done thus far. . instead just operate single crew whilst completing both recall and non-recall items by recall, horse the aircraft around the sky in a cowboy approach and throw it on the ground without involving your colleague in any way. They gave me the impression this was what they liked, they may have used the intervening 18mths to become a bit more MCC/Boeing, but then again maybe not. Great laugh :rolleyes:

I wonder if THY are interested in recruiting ex-El AL pilots at this time?;)

Age Limit Turkish Airlines ?
 

Will Turkish consider raising the max age if they cannot get the numbers they need , or is it something to do with historic Retirement Age / Pension ?

About 11K USD for a Longhaul captain.
Need 11000 hours and 1500 command on A340/B777

Who has info on pension?

THY
 

From a call to their HR today: NO MORE recruiting for B777 this year. Maybe t 2011.:{
So, don't bother to fill out all that paperwork through the agencies. It's gonna be a waste of time.
And yes: with the current 'commuting' police they assume all long haul bods are either single or hate be at home:ugh: 3 weeks ON one week OFF, travelling on YOUR days OFF means less than 6 days back home a month...

Day one, you arrive at the hotel. 4* hotel.
Day two....they pick you from the hotel around 9am, and there is where the "action" starts...You wait in a room with other candidates, for a couple of hours, till they call you, to check your license, your medical, and other documents. Then you wait for many hours, till you enter the simulator.
There is NO A340 sim. Therefore, they ask you to be tested in the 320.
This is a real thriller!! You start with basic :} steep turns!!!! Left-right, climb, descend.
Then, they "slew" the machine to an airport, basically LTAC or LTBA, and with CAT 1 weather, and some 25 kts xwind, they ask you to fly a raw-data ILS.
In the meanwhile, a nasty co-pilot (nasty is his job, the guy is OK), makes your life extremely difficult. (you know, he brings the aflor easily....he does not obey your orders...he flies like my grandmom...).
And all this, to captains with more than 15k hours....:ugh:
It is a good experience....Next day, if you pass this thrill, you are asked to pass an interview. Nice people, friendly.
Then you must go to a police station to sign paper work, till the afternoon, for your stay there.
The next day, you fly home......and you wait, till they contact you again.

pilot415
 

please explain further about whats happening there?how much u get per monthly and will they pay during our training?

I have heard from colleagues who are passed the thriller that during the training THY will not pay them. No body knows how long will be lasted this training. (Who guaranties that will start?)
I don't think that will be less than 20 - 30 days.

It is really a thriller going over ......
Commanders with 6 or more k of hours on type, are failing their sim....
For 777, they are using 737, and for 340, they are using 320 sims.

Nice place to live Istanbul, nice people, nice food, nice night life.
Excellent staff in the Company, and very helpful.
But the assessment sucks!
It seems, that in the reality, they don't want foreigners, in their cockpits.
Otherwise I cannot explain the 80% of failures.....
:mad:

Turkish FO contract
 

Hi guys and gals,

I got a call from Sigmar today. Non-commuting 3-year contract for FO´s (renewed every 12 months due to local labour laws). 8000 turkish liras basic salary minus local taxes (around 5%) including 70 hours block, 95 liras/hour for overtime, quarterly bonus of 3500 liras, at least 8 off days (2 day blocks), 18 days annual leave, possible upgrade according to company´s need,
ID-90´s + ZED´s, first 15 days at hotel payed by company, local transportation by company, no housing allowances. That´s the contract in a nutshell. I would appreciate if anyone actually flying for them could post details on A320 and B737 rosters, layovers and cost of living in Istambul.

Thanx and safe flights for all!

upspeed
 

thx for the info.did sigma mentioned anything about pay during training?
how much roughly is the pay for F.O A320 basic+allowance.

thank u.

Thanks for the info, I am due for an assessment this month. Is there anything I should focus on?

Well worth brushing up for the tech exam. It's 20 questions straight out of "ACE", easy if you read the book lately.
Good luck they are great people

Way to go!
 

Begin of ops 1933, 22nd hull loss in 2009: That's one loss in 3.5 years.:= Wow, this is one reliable carrier. A good way to make your family rich (if you have got appropriate life cover).:ugh: Even Merpati Nusantara did better than that.:D

What is ACE? ....besides being a hardware store :confused:

"Wow, this is one reliable carrier."

Wow, I wonder how in heaven it's possible that same "unreliable" carrier was invited to Star Alliance group by distinguished companies like Member Airlines - Star Alliance

What have they think? :confused:

Interview
 

Dear theflyinggreek I am thinking to go for the interview next month, would you please be so kind to give me some tips I will really appreciate any comments please. thank you very much! excell1