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number 7 1st July 2008 00:27

What pay rise are you expecting this year?
 
Our industry is facing some tough times at the moment and the forecast is for things to get a little worse.:} The evidence of increased costs in running an airline are all around us and the list of failed airlines that could not stand up to these increased costs is increasing month on month. But with increased costs to employers you tend to get increased costs for employees and this is demonstrated in the way rpi figures are climbing.

So with all this in mind, what pay rises are we all expecting to get this year??

captjns 1st July 2008 09:00

Jet Blue, and airline in the US has authorized a pay raise for its pilot group. Some airlines in Asia and India have increased their T & Cs to induce more expats. I don't know what they are doing for current contracted pilots though.

What pay raise do you anticipate Number 7?

unablereqnavperf 1st July 2008 15:30

If your working for an airline at the moment even getting your monthly check should be considered a pay rise!
I'm very pleased to be flying a shinney jet for a chap that owns an oil refinary at the moment!

king surf 1st July 2008 19:39

Keepimg my job!!

Clandestino 1st July 2008 20:08

Every year, same 0.5%

Denti 1st July 2008 20:15

Well, after i faced a 25% pay cut this year (thank you Air Berlin) i gonna get another 45% pay cut at the end of this year (if the company is still alive that is).

ChocksAwayUK 1st July 2008 20:27

RPI+0.5%.

2-Year-deal made last year not so bad after all, I suppose.

TAP 2nd July 2008 09:44

Rpi + 0.5%

speedtouch 2nd July 2008 09:54

RPI +0.5% - ....pretty good I suppose....considering everything.

jkl 2nd July 2008 11:13

yes RPI + 0.5% is very good considering RPI last month was at 4.3% so currently a near 5% pay rise!

Although I'm certain management will not take this lying down especially if RPI continues to climb, I think they will try to back out of the deal or issue a 'pay freeze' request & we will hopefully then see the strength of BALPA in sticking to our fixed 2 year deal

RAT 5 2nd July 2008 12:25

What about the agencies using EU airlines e.g. Brookfield, Storm, Direct, Contractair & Parc etc.? Are their rates keeping up with salaries? or are the rates frozen? If so, that would seem inequitable considering their are no fringe benefits either.
What's the news on the street?

superced 2nd July 2008 13:52

Well, after i faced a 25% pay cut this year (thank you Air Berlin) i gonna get another 45% pay cut at the end of this year (if the company is still alive that is).

??????????????????????????????????????? Where and how?????????

Stone Cold II 2nd July 2008 18:35

I hear the board did approach the managment about getting out of the RPI+0.5% payrise asking them if it could be done.

The Management told them they have to honour it and there is nothing that can be done.

From what I hear.

Mister Geezer 3rd July 2008 22:19

Not expecting but I actually got an increase of 4.5% this year!!! :}

Fancy Navigator 4th July 2008 08:54

Keeping my job with my current salary is the most important. :(

stardustcologne 4th July 2008 10:22

Well, after i faced a 25% pay cut this year (thank you Air Berlin) i gonna get another 45% pay cut at the end of this year (if the company is still alive that is).

??????????????????????????????????????? Where and how?????????


@Superced:
It is the German airline Airberlin, who first bought several surrounding airlines, felt like taking revenge for the disinherited and then spoiled it all because he overestimated his own abilities in this businness. And then finally: Once upon a time there was an oil price...

Now there is an excess of personnel... parked aircraft... cancelled destinations...
You can call it a policy of consolidation?! Who knows who is controlling this game...

But there is no payrise in Germany, at least not for everyone. Maybe the lucky colleagues from Lufthansa can tell a bit more.
Should be glad not to lose our job! I still remember the day I heard about the bankruptcy of another german airline a few years ago in the morning news, they showed all the employees standing in front of the gate: "Sorry, closed - and never reopened..." Some of the flying staff is now here - and I hope they don't have to face it all again.

mikehammer 5th July 2008 12:28

10% at the end of my first year as low paid turbo prop FO (no, I am NOT complaining, merely stating fact).

Oh, and our freight contract allows us to pass on our increased fuel costs to the client so I guess that helps somewhat.

BarbiesBoyfriend 23rd August 2008 22:21

I've had Sweet FA for ages, but this year got 9.5 % backdated for nearly a year.

Suck on that!

(surprised, but happy)

:uhoh:


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