Longhaul Direct Entry Captains......
 

I've looked and looked and not seen much at all....

I'd like to shift from short haul to long haul without going back to the right hand seat..... anybody know which airlines might be interested in a short-haul captain (B737 and A320) wanting to fly further in a day?

I don't but tell me pls if you find any. :)

Try Etihad... have A320 but option to move up long haul ladder in LHS.

Move to longhaul
 

Most widebody longhaul airlines frieght or passenger will not even look at you if you have not got any P1 time in big a jet. 3/5 years min in rt. seat.

Yes that seems to be the case.

I'd be interested to know your thoughts on why that would be....

Never having flown widebody/longhaul I'm not sure what the big differences are.

Hours of boredom, jet lag and soulless hotels.

You can try the AJX/AJV contracts in Japan, or maybe a longshot, the KAL contract.

Good luck.

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"I'd be interested to know your thoughts on why that would be....

Never having flown widebody/longhaul I'm not sure what the big differences are."


might be just me but any Capt in the industry knows the difference.

Some airlines such as Qatar have A319 with extra tanks that fly longhaul, good for thin routes or proving a route initially.

I would be very careful joining a lot of airlines on a A320 fleet while on a promise of longhaul. It may help an airline fill 320 slots, but mightn't help the pilot fly longhaul....

Try Aerologic. Their requirements are very low for DECs, however I suspect you (we) will be competing with the rest of the world for a job.

www.aerologic.aero

KT

Well said, didn't brakedwell sum it up? Certainly no difference in piloting skill.

So why the wall :ugh: between narrow and widebody? I don't think anyone's refusing A320 jobs to pilots with A340 time.......

Anyway, Aerologic looks interesting. By the way, it's www.aerologic.aero, unless you want a job in streamline flow analysis!

Etihad might be worth a look, but my experience as a passenger with them was truly awful.

The KAL contract would be lovely, but like you say, a long shot.

IMHO,

There is very little difference, I went from short haul to long in 3 days ground school, 2 sims and some line training when I was flying as an already experienced pilot...

It's not an issue! Particulary if you're flying a variant (B757/B767 - A320/A330)

Lots more things to consider but as an experienced heavy jet pilot you probably had worked out anyway before you we're told it on your groundschool/line training...

It's all about more money and more time off..!!!!

In BA if you're senior enough with a valid bid for LHS longhaul you get it.

After a good 15-20 years.....:D

Nothing to do with ability in my airline. (well when I say ability it assumes that when you have command in the company you have proven your ability) It's all got to do with seniority. Each year you put a bid in for what you want. If you're senior enough in the left seat of shorthaul you simply do the conversion course from one aircraft to the other. You certainly don't go back into the right seat again just because of the type of aircraft. Taking captains out of the equation, when the airline had turboprops we actually used to have some FO's going from turboprop rightseat to longhaul jet without having any previous jet experience. It never seemed to cause any problems.

It's quite funny actually as in the past few years it is not always one way traffic. Some shorthaul captains are now putting a bid in for longhaul, doing it for a year and then coming back. Believe me it's not all it's cracked up to be in my experience. Long hours of boredom followed by rapidly reducing rest periods. Certainly hasn't the excitment factor of years ago.

From dusk til dawn said: "Do you really think that there is no difference in the job except leg time and jetlag???"

No I don't. I asked the question because I don't know the answer. I imagine that the airlines have a sound reason for making the distinction between these different types of flying.

Clearly you are aware of differences that I am not aware of, so I'd be interested to hear your comments. I guess you are RHS on longhaul?

Give him a break.... he's probably just tired and grumpy from constantly flying his 'wide body' From Dusk till Dawn!

I fly 737s and could only dream of flying a JUMBO. :ugh:

Basically I prefer to be at home with family but I'm really glad I did a bit of long haul - it's good experience but not rocket science lads! If you feel the need to get it out of your system better give it a go!

I admit to being what the BA boys call a FEWDAL! ;)

Er....what's a FEWDAL?

A ' Flat earth w..... dabbling at Longhaul'