Eastern Airways Massive Xmas Bonus
 

just been chatting to several former collegues and they have all confirmed that there bonus was a big fat Zero!!!!! even at flybe they all got 10 quid m and s voucher

The bonus once started as £200 with a couple of bottles of wine and a letter from richard

then decreased to £ 150 minus the wine

and last year £100

and this year a big Fat ZERO.

Times must be really hard for Richard and Brian, after all there cant be much profit in a return ticket costing 400 odd quid on a sector of 50 mins.

Maybe it is the thought of having to provide all there employees with a pension, because of 2009, the EU have decreed that any employer with a total number of 500 people or more must provide a retirement plan.

its a real shame, there is a load of real nice, hard working people at eastern, who get shafted year in and year out, maybe one day they may all turn around and say get stuffed and get another job.

anyhow

merry xmas

Crew moral is at an all time low

Ho Ho Ho...

Try no Bonus oh, and have your base closed too..

Good Old Air Southwest...

Who knows, maybe next year all at Eastern will recieve the £10 M&S voucher!!

Something will give eventually! :ugh:

Merry Christmas one and all!

you never know, 3 ghosts may visit richard and Brian on christmas Eve:}

come on dont be soooooo tight phistered lads

Zero bonus seems to be the norm these days.....

There's a good reason for that - because we work in aviation rather than financial services. Why on earth should we expect a bonus?

Im sure there would be a good reason for it! Besides... I heard that the staff had a good christmas do, which I'm hoping and guessing (and I hope I dont look a fool by saying it) was all expenses paid!

We all no that the bonus after tax ain't worth much... and as for the wine... its hardly the nicest your ever going to have tasted!

I know people are still going to be disheartened! but as I said Im sure theres a good reason... and try and be content with the good things that came your way this year and not dwell on something that you never got.


may the truth be spoken boldly!!

These big fat ZERO's must be 'in' this year because we've all got them as well at Jet2. God bless the stone hearted management, where ever they may be, one and all. Bah humbug :}

It must be a jetstream thing:D. No Christmas bonus at Highland either. And they wonder why people are leaving!!!

Yes Im quite sure Richard and Bryan awarded themselves and nice personal bonus this year when everyone else (the staff) who make the business work get bu**er all for their efforts.:{

I have spoken to a few former colleagues who say that staff moral is at an all time low, everyone is getting very hacked off. probably explains why they are so short of staff, esp LHS!!!

I think this lack of goodwill on behalf of management will open the floodgate!

Must be something good about Highland - I heard people are going back there after doing bigger things!

Trying walking through the cabin with your hat (if you still have it) just mention that a good donation always helps the approach and landing

When you have started a business, probably gone without any pay for the first couple of years, and truly understood just what level of risk, investment and hard work is required to overcome hurdle after hurdle after hurdle and try and make money in an industry as tough as this one, you can also award yourself a "nice personal bonus".

Doors to automatic:
Richard and Brian run this airline as a hobby, richards main business is shipping and freight haulage.
On my first day, I was introduced to eastern with the magic words "Hi my name is Richard Lake and I pay your wages". Now what does that say about him and his airline, some may say assertive, others may say what a t... pot.
At 400 quid for a return ticket for a 50 min sector,no frequent flyer programe or air miles, some may say that it is just plain greedy.:mad: 400 quid to be defend, shakin about, and a glass of cheap brut. Granted the cabin crew work extremly hard and do there best in the gallery and are paid a crap salary.
Any how
Its a real shame that upstairs have not recognised all the hard and good work of all the flight deck and cabin crew this year.
moral is at an all time low, but the management seem to have there heads stuck in the sand and they only seem to listen to what they want to here.
Crew are still being pestered by the kids in the crewing office on there days off or annual live, I dont think they can quite grasp the fact that people arnt interested in what is going on at disneyland humberside. I know of a couple of captains who have got 2 mobiles as they are constantly pestered by crewing.................sad hey.:ugh:

as many of you have said, the airline runs on good will, of which alot of it has ran out, and they will certainly know this in the summer when easy start they mas recruitment along with all the other big boys.

I have heard a rumour that balpa representation maybe on the cards, so be prepared for the usual toys out out of the pram trick on the first floor, office at the left top corner.


Just hate to see good crew getting the annual shafting, hopefully a few more of you may live and go to an airline where they actually appreciate you.
merry xmas

Nah....one guy back for personal reasons. 8 working notice, including nearly a quarter of Captains on JS31. Not doing anything right!

Have just heard that all management have recieved a framed pic of the board of directors as a bonus:

have a look



http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Waldorf

what a right pair hey!

heres a personal mesage from the ops diector too, when he last addressed the board of directors ,how he wants to make billions instead of trillions, see the unkany resmeblance im sure!

hope you noticed his chair of power and the new pilot uniform too,

hehehehehehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32C0eKRQVt8
all done in the best possible taste!

Doors to Automatic -

Ummm, sounds a little familiar .....oh yes..... just like the process of becoming a commercial pilot, minus the "nice personal bonus" at the end of course!

:hmm:

A few words here, but first, to one and all, best wishes for a fine new year.
The bonus system is inherently a flawed way of rewarding people, especially at the lower end of the meat logistics trade. This has been precisely demonstrated in the previous posts. Bonuses are well received until they decrease or are removed. At that point chagrin, resentment and ill will replace the previous warm seasonal glow which so habitually accompanies a reward perceived as being more than justified.

A salaried job, by its very nature, exchanges a wage for a productive commitment. A thirteenth cheque is only deserved under circumstances that fall entirely within the discretion and benefice of the employer. There is no right to such a cheque any more than there is a right to a place in heaven, unless of course, profit sharing is written into a contract and that with an exclusion clause for the clergy. But then, by the same token, perhaps a hellish thought, salary reductions are implied if not inscribed within such a contract in the event of company loss.

Two mobiles has, by the way, always been, especially for captains, nothing more than normal industry common sense. It is both a noble challenge and great sport to evade and avoid the machinations of those whose mental stability, educational or intellectual acumen and knowledge of the law, let alone its rational interpretation, are always open to serious question. One refers, of course, without any trace of disparagement, to those dear kids in crewing.

In the elder days of Eastern, when EGSH first came on stream, young Richard was heard many times to opine that he wished to visit each base once a week in order to encourage crew and personnel morale. This concept of benign governance fell by the wayside fairly quickly and, although no longer with the company and thus privy only to rumours, one heard that pilot administration had fallen into the clutches of hard men whose opinions of themselves might possibly have been greater, or so one was led to understand, in more than even part, than their estimation of those who worked and travailed under their ne'er so humble eyes.

The French refrain, 'ze company, she is not the same' was one that springs to mind and damn me, by all accounts., it wasn't, by all accounts!

Still, and yes indeed, young Richard has done well for himself and for others too, providing many jobs for those who would not otherwise have flown at all ! Furthermore, it is rumoured that his Jetstreams now have autopilots. This is more than can be said for DB9s where, at one time anyway, cruise control was an optional extra. :p:cool:

i think most people cant understand the fact that the company has made a good profit again this year, and they cant undwerstand why all of a sudden that they never even got a thankyou from the boss.............maybe its because flybe has now become a real threat!

hmm:

It's a little like that story of the aged employee who was presented with a gold watch after sixty years of service with the same company.
Someone muttered to the aged employee's boss that it was a pity he, the employee, didn't receive more for his services than just a gold timepiece. To this complaint the crusty company owner replied to the effect that the old man had damn well been paid for sixty years of work, so the company was doing him the favour by the presentation.
The bonus system is a totally flawed concept and is quite unworkable in practice. It should be distinguished from profit sharing and profit generated salary augmentation, fincancial reward concepts with which it is often confused. It is, furthermore, a hard fact of life that in order to employ people, a company, unlike the UK Labour government, has to make a profit.
Nonetheless, it does sound as thought young Richard might at the least have dashed off the odd Christmas card or seasonal greeeting, although it's a dead cert that there would be someone who would have found Santa and the snowmen offensive.:E

If company doesn't make any money, then of course no bonus should really be paid.

However, in this sort of case, where a company has made a good profit, then it isn't that smart not to give something.

It doesn't have to be hundreds of pounds, it could even be a donation to charity in the employee's name (probably tax deductable as well!).

What happens is you lose a huge amount of good will, which in reality is worth far more than a even a few hundred quid per staff member.

You can make the argument that you are paid to work and of course this is true, but the world and especially employee relations aren't that simple.

An example,

American Airlines (I believe) introduced a reward system for staff who took no sick days throughout the year. They bought a couple of expensive cars and at the end of the year, each member of staff who hadn't taken a day off due to sickness was entered into a raffle for them.

Amazingly, sickness numbers fell dramatically. Was it bribery to try and get people to come to work for a job they are already paid for?
Yes, of course, but financially it was an incredibly smart move.
I believe Barbara Cassani at GO had a similar system only using holidays instead, but again it was a very successful policy.

The point is, a few quid at christmas is stuff all to a profitable company, the damage it does by witholding it is far more costly.

Arguments about "you're paid for it" fall down, as very few people follow that view and by not giving a bonus you are leaving a feeling that the staff aren't valued.

I remember the damage done at Emerald when the £10 Sainsbury's voucher was handed out. I remember feeling insulted by it. More so than the next year when we got nothing.

Funny things personal feelings. Mainly because everyone has different ones!

:hmm:

The value of staff may be deduced by the sartorial elegance of the uniform provided by the company for the enouragement of ridicule on the part of others.
One remembers with great affection the affectation of the gold tie, so thoughtfully provided by HQ.:ugh:

Don't forget the hats. To feel truly rewarded, especially as a pilot one MUST have a hat. Even beter if it's dripping in gold braid a la Idi Amin.

That's how to get ones staff motivated!