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Nite_Flite 7th April 2001 18:57

Who lands the aircraft at BA?
 
Someone once told me that the Commander does all the landings at BA. True or False?

What is the monthly Flight Allowance on long-haul?

Thanks

Thunderbug 7th April 2001 22:13

1) The commander does the landings, but Role reversal is encouraged so sometimes the 'commander' will be the Co-pilot operating as PICUS (Pilot flying in command under supervision). This means that the co-pilot pretends he is in command and accomplishes the tasks that go with that including choosing fule load, take-off, land, etc. Captain retains overall command and has to sign all the legal stuff, loadsheet, tech log. With two crew the landings are usually shared.

2) Depends - Flying hour payments depend on time in the company and other allowances depend on where you go and for how long.

Any the wiser?

TEMP0+TSRAGR 8th April 2001 16:30

If its your birthday and you have polished the captains shoes properly, and have 50K with less than 5Kts down the runway then Sir might honour your presence by allowing you a landing .....

whato .... chocks away old chap !

Nite_Flite 9th April 2001 18:46

Thanks alot guyes,

I'll just trash the applicationform BA sent me. Hard to imagine the next 12 years without a landing.....

How do you cope?

Do you mean, that flight allowance varies with seniority....the older and fater the more you get...??

TEMP0+TSRAGR 9th April 2001 21:56

Nite_Flite - My previous posting was a joke !!!

BA operate leg 'a' leg about, you will do a landing every other sector unless your on long haul where having a heavy crew means someone looses out, plus every one has to practice autolands between sim checks.

Most long haul guys get about 1.5 landings a month ....nothing unique to BA.

Shorthaul just like every other airline, you will definetly get your 'fix' of flying !

Only exception is the fo's Xwind limits are 2/3rds the Capts, but on those occasions the fo will fly the sector where its within his limits ..... rarley out at both ends ...



52049er 10th April 2001 15:41

In fact BA are probably one of the better airlines if you want to get some landings in. Ive been flying with them for about seven months now and a quick check of my log book shows that I have done more than 50% of the landings. Things like X wind limits dont really come into it much, as on the pre flight you decide with the skipper who will do which sector and if the wind is out of limits at the destination, you simply do the return leg. In 350 sectors (180 as picus) i have left control with the skipper once as a result of a wind check update.

Most skippers are more than happy for you to do visuals as well.

Dont chuck that form in the bin just yet (and remember that it wasnt that long ago that certain charter co's insisted that the FO requested that the skipper gave him a bit of speedbrake rather than just using it himself)

N2000 13th April 2001 17:05

52049er, I can only endorse your comments. It is the same on the B744, quite pleasant really!

fireflybob 17th April 2001 15:20

>(and remember that it wasnt that long ago that certain charter co's insisted that the FO requested that the skipper gave him a bit of speedbrake rather than just using it himself)<

Just a note but this restriction hasnothing to do with whether or not one is happy for the right hand pilot to have the responsibility of operating speedbrake but the harzards or having to extend one's arm/hands over the flap/thrust levers in order to access the speedbrake.
Also, if you are flying the aircraft it is SOP to call for flap settings, so why not ask for speedbrake operation? This seems like a sensible utilisation of crew resources, to me


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