Iver

I think there is some hiring on the 737 still but nearly all new F/Os in 2009 will be CTC cadets, whom the company have openly told our union will not be offered permanent employment, unless there is a drastic turn-around in global economics. As for having a say in which fleet you are on or which base you would like, well maybe in the golden summers of 2005/6, but not any more.

easyJet's stated intention for the future is to offer senior first officers "summer commands", hiring 6 month contract F/Os to fill the RHS in the summer period and then showing the contract F/Os the door to allow the "seasonal captains" to return to the right hand seat for the winter season.

CTC and ezy managers call it "Flexi-Crew", personally, and I know I'm not alone amongst ezy pilots from either seats on this one, I see it as the end of easyJet as a decent employer. I think anyone wishing to join, whatever their experience level, should bear this in mind before turning cartwheels of joy at the prospect of joining our ranks.

Thanks BMRR,

Yes, it seems quite shady to me. While I might like to fly a 737NG or Airbus someday, there are clearly better operators out there in the world than Easy who don't resort to those sorts of "flexible" staffing methods. It's a pity. I have never heard BA need to do that - but then again, BA is in a different league and everyone knows it.

Cheers

A quick Q:

Are the CTC cadets paid flying pay from EJ whilst on the initial 6 month £1000pcm from CTC?

Cheers

Iver
No, it's £1k/month and that's it - no sector pay.

CCOVER
Insurance is covered by the final part of your CTC contract which you will receive after the AQC stage.

Gyni
Thanks for clarifying that.

Clara
Are you still here?

BBMR This is a proposal by the Company that is being negotiated and having safeguards added to by BALPA. You will of been following this on the BALPA forum, if you are a member. Then the membership, not the freeloaders, have a chance to vote on the proposals. So despite the Company wishing to 'state an intention', there still have many hurdles to climb yet!

Cara You are wrong. Load factors are up on last year, as are forward bookings. So save your condescending luck for yourself - YOU'RE the one that needs it! Keep trying to sell yourself.

oh well if your non-easy employed b/f says easy is struggling, it must be true.

ps thanks for your very brief lesson on the economics of airline sustainability.

He joined Easyjet or CTC Clara?
They are different companies.

We still have new pilots joining through TRSS, I had one on the jumpseat last week on a famil flight. Direct entry or cadets, I would say look elsewhere because it could be a while for you.

CTC are doing less training than ever for easyjet according to a trainer I was sat with on a flight last week.

Well we all know how sucessful ladies with "boyfriends" can be in Easy Jet.
" Are you sure you want me to disconnect both these CSD's ? "
or is that just an urban myth ? ;)

That just made my day


Thanks captplaystation:ok:

QAFPS - fantastic,genious,to hell with Peter Kay,GET UP ON THAT STAGE!ill buy a ticket anyway :D:D


Its seems to me(just by reading this forum) that ryrs deal is far better to easyjets.Easyjets just seems very harsh in the extreme- especially all this talk of 'seasonal ' stuff.

ryr you pay your 30k,on successful completion you have a guaranteed job(albeit as a contracter).they changed the contract recently so you get 40 euro/ph during line training after safety release.55 euro after line training and 70 euro after 500 hours.Thats pretty good for year 1.

Why am i saying this - well its not ryr v easy.I like both and i know people in easy.Im just baffled why people are clammering to get into a pretty harsh deal for year 1/2????

Leeds65 Can you explain this, with your evidence, rather than your hearsay, or what you've read, from an anonomous poster on a public website!

Hello kick the tires

True, we will, but from what I read on the forum we will be voting to have seasonal commands in favour of contract captains. In effect we are going to be accepting "seasonal" T&Cs for new captains promoted from within. And as for acting collectively and voting against either, I totally agree with SM on the balpa CC that there is simply insufficient backbone amongst the pilot workforce as a whole at the moment. All that dry powder is getting damp!


I don't think it is better at all, but with the introduction of temporary commands, contract F/Os' etc ezy is heading rapidly towards being just as average a place to work as FR. FR's crewing costs are the benchmark for the ezy management, which is bad news for those of us already there and anyone who hopes to join.

Oh my gosh, where is this job going. What a joke!!! Flexi. Great I m happy , I m flexy. Next step, please... :D
I heard that Lidl and Aldi will start flying soon! :ok: