Thats it, i'm off, i'm not joining a company on c**p T's and C's, working more nights for less money, less holidays and a worse pension just so Jim and his buddies get richer, BACON Engineers were amongst the worst paid and now we get stitched even more, i hope you jockeys can accept a drop in standards when all the part time labour moves in around the bases, so far at MAN 2 have left and at least 10 are awaiting todays final nail. Nice working with you guys. Let the leaving parties begin!!!

KEF
Those of us staying wish you well :D

Brain Fade, aspaceman and anyone else who has had a pop at EDI...
OK, so the deal is done. BA Mainline staff are out, Aviance are in. No more delays then, all things being equal EDI should be the best station in the network now - shouldnt it?
Iam going to end this post by saying that yes, EDI wasnt the greatest station in the network - I never said it was. It had its problems and we all know what and who they were. However no point crying over spilt milk - BUT please spare a thought for the hard working staff who DID try and who DID take pride in their jobs. We were greatly under staffed - moreso in the last 3 years. We were greatly under funded as we were the only station outside LHR to have their own loading/ramp section, this required vast sums of cash to keep going - evident in the LACK of equipement (if and when it worked).
Iam not making excuses here but look at the facts before decrying the station. There were also factors out-with BA Mainlines control... ie Constantly tech aircraft in the Connect fleet, constant weather delays with Loganair flights and competition from other airlines - (something BA could have dealt with years ago).
Now we know whats ahead, I sincerely wish everyone a bright and prosperous future whatever that may be. I have enjoyed my 10 years at BA through thick and thin. No hard feelings aspaceman eh?

A Truce
 

Things are never easy in times like this and real people suffer. I am sure there were many at EDI who took pride in their job as well as those described earlier. I genuinely wish you all the very best and hope that you secure employment and prosper. The very best of luck :ok:

In the newspaper this morning: This month there are going to be 900 hundred flights cancelled from Bacon/Flybe.
Routes that are going to be cancelled plus of course more to come: Bristol-Munich, Bristol-Zürich, Birmingham-Barcelona, Birmingham-Madrid, Birmingham-Berlin, Manchester-Wiena, Manchester-Lyon, Manchester-Aberdeen, Manchester-Madrid and Edinburgh-Hamburg.

I guess bmi baby is going to fly to Madrid from Bhx now!! and make loads of money like Bacon did. They are already going to start to fly to Barcelona in the summer I believe

The best of luck to everybody!

Bristol base to close completely
 

read it yourselves

http://nextgenerationairline.com/pdf/brs.pdf

nice working with everyone, off to post my cv

ttfn

Does anyone know why this is happening? What was wrong with Bristol? I'm a regular flyer on the BA Connect Bristol-Paris route, it's often full of people paying £300-400 a seat. That route alone must have been profitable, where the others bad? Are there external factors?

Will EasyJet put an early morning Bristol-Paris flight on?

BRS base closure
 

What a shame! all the best to the wonderful people in BRS

BRS base closure

I have to position on the BRS- EDI route evey week for duty and have thoroughly enjoyed the flights and the profesisonalism shown by the flight deck, cabin crew and ground staff. To all of you affected I'm very sorry to hear this and hope you get something that suits you soon and I shall miss my Wednesday evening flights with you. Easyland here we come again!!

This is rotten news and the people who work there deserve better.

The ground folk in particular are a cut above those found at other stations.

Good Luck folks. :sad:

I fear the answer,sadly, is petty politics; Flybe do not want to deal with BRS airport management, or vice-versa; whatever; the "South-West's Largest Airline" obviously doesn't want to fly from the airport that is largest in the south-west.

ttfn

Have to agree, we use BAcon hadling and engineers at BRS and the news must have come as a shock for most. Saw more than a few tears today walking through the old terminal :(

Sad news guys , I hope you all get jobs sorted out quickly.

Might the answer to the above question re Flybe and BRS be that Flybe do not want to go head to head with Easy.

Perhaps not wanting to go head to head with Easy is reason enough, but surely the location of Exeter is a major point as well. I know it's a fair drive if you're a Bristol resident, but from the South, the choice would mean dividing resources to compete against themselves, not good business.

A very sad day for all at Bristol. I for one will remember Brymon as the credit to the Southwest that it was, and shall remember the hard work, dedication and professionalism of all who served and deserved so much better than the nasty carve up job Waterworld delivered.

Had Brymon tied up with BRAL and the BRAL management without BA's meddling and interference, politics and complication, we might all have survived intact and stronger. Here's to how it might have been.

I've only visited Bristol twice, but thank you all for your hospitality and warmth while I was there. Those that manage the great Orange escape route, you'll be a credit to them and best of luck.

Remember, it shouldn't really be seen as FlyBE's fault that the base is to close, from a pure business standpoint, it wasn't really viable with Exeter so close and Easy so prominent and in favour with the Airport. A good Business chooses it's battles wisely.

At least there are other options reasonably close. For the IOM staff and engineers, the future is very bleak indeed. There may be full employment, but a lot of the jobs pay crap and in no way are comparable. My heartfelt sympathy also goes out to all the Viscount House and Hanger staff. Best of luck.

Finally, what a crappy way to publicise the hand over. 900 flights cancelled! Great headline. As most of them are simply switches to code shared FlyBE flights, the lower number would have been better, routes only rather than the combined rotations of all the flights affected either way for the whole month.

It was nice to hear about all the cancelled flights whilst sitting in one operating as normal, funny that. It'll do wonders for the loads this month, not!

Best of luck everyone, let's hope the transition goes smoothly as far as possible.

So are Flybe now in the interesting situation of having to pay redundancy to pilots in BRS whilst desperately trying to recruit them elsewhere?

I feel a career change into management consultancy coming on. It must be so easy with the likes of Flybe around.

You said it snakeman! Redundancy, relocation or touring and FLYBE want our answers yesterday.

Crazy, crazy, crazy.

Total bolluc%$ about MXP,ZRH and MUC routes being loss makers from BRS. These were some of our best with regular load factors in excess of 80%. Also to throw away CDG is mind boggling. An absolute gem route which was amongst the top performers in the company.

There is a political game being played out where we are only pawns......as usual.

The one thing that stands out above all the rest amidst the crap news about BRS....the arrival of smiling Jim's propaganda sheet.

"We have created the biggest regional airline in Europe" he crows.

Exactly what David Evans said of BA CitiExpress four years ago before the slide into oblivion began.

Good luck those of you who are staying.

You will need it.

BRS Ground
 

Thanks to all of you for your kind words about BRS Ground. I shall pass them on. The party is in The Bungalow on 31Mar, you're all welcome, drop me a line if interested.

I had to cover dispatch today as we were short, not nice at all. CC in tears, and some drivers very pi**ed off. At least we on the ground were not expecting to stay, so the arrival of an end date was welcome, really. Not so clever if you were promised a BRS base, and then had the rug pulled.

Good luck to you all. Even you, Borat!

GB

Relative newcomer to BRS Ground Bunnie but would like to join you, can you PM details? :ok:

noiffs


It has little to do with load factors, it is yield that determines the viability of a route. Many apparently high-load routes have gone the way of the dodo due to poor yield.

Fair point, but with no competition on these routes and heavy demand there was clearly scope to increase yield. Then again our lot probably never thought of that!

Even better point!!! :}