I've been a non-registered viewer on here for quite a while, and now Im getting to the point where I'm getting fed up with what Monarch are offering me.
Its time for the CC members to toughen up a bit. I still cant believe the cave in that occurred at the last pay-round.
I remember when we used to measure ourselves with the likes of Britainia.., now even experienced guys are only level with Easy jet, and Ryan air in many cases.
When are you guys, particularly joiners with 6 years or so of seniority or less going to wake up and realize we work for a company that consistently makes a decent profit and yet consistently (thanks to a CEO who manages to continually shift the goal posts, and a narrow spectrum CC with their own vested agenda) fail to pass it on.
I'm working harder for less (in real terms) and yet all around me I see guys doing pretty much the same job as me, for quite considerably more.
We need to stick together and get a better deal!:ok:

PRNAV - You're being offered the A300 at age 23? What hours/types do you have, if you don't mind me asking?

Around 2200hrs, 95% heavy jet.

...and yes! i am the luckiest B:mad: d. :)

Prnav1, Albatosser, whatever you call yourself. you've never flown a jet in your life, go back home to mummy. This guy has annoying habits on the ME forum, where he is the expert on most things :ugh:

SyB :zzz:

Haha! All feel free to check out what i actually wrote in the mid-east forum and see the torrid of abuse i got from some very nasty characters. So far up their own a:mad: 's they think they can talk to people however they like.
Jelous my friend...?
Don't bother me, believe what you want. Got no time for bitter idiots. :)

Hi all.

Just interested to know if anyone would start on anything higher than the B scale if you went straight onto the wide body fleet? (A300)

It is 42k unless some one can correct me.

...and how does the senior fo system work at Mon, is it 1500, 2000, 3000hrs or purley on time served? What difference does that make on pay?

Many thanx. :)

42k is SFO pay ALL start on this unless cadet which is lower. NO entry on higher salary. Wide body (scale B), does not matter which fleet, starts from No 1 on list and goes down, at the moment capt/fo with about 12 + years with company are getting scale B.

ppjn or balpa websites have full pay scales allowances etc

Join with 10000 hrs wide body L / R seat experience or 250 hrs you start at bottom of list.

Enjoy

Any idea when Monarch will be hiring non type-rated pilots ?

Regards P

One ex mil and one ex 737 start Monday morning on 757 course.

b&c

just moved to the top to save SEAMASTER shouting. Only 2 pages down.

Anybody heard anything recently regarding Monarch recruitment? Anyone who submitted a pilot profile heard anything yet?

Regards P.

You might have seen from the company website that some new routes are being launched from LTN next year.This will probably mean another 320 coming=jobs

only if you're dutch and are enrolled in CTC :E

Rumours of 20 new guys coming from CTC in winter.
If you have a rating then you have an advantage

Doubt that non type rated guys will be taken on from other airlines

Looks like I'll have to apply to KLM. Rumour has it the Dutch guys are entitled to career loans from their goverment (with very low rates of interest) in order for them to gain their ratings. A little unfair if this is so.

I've never heard a convincing explanation for why so many cloggies come via CTC???

They used to have a tie up with a big Dutch training school.

not a happy place, lots of people leaving, about £5k less per year than other operators and a worse pension deal by far.

Its more accurate to say, that the newish joiners on the capped pay scales are leaving.
There are serious questions that the management need to answer regarding flightcrew salaries, allowances, and the DC pension scheme.
Recently in a CC meeting, when asked, a senior management person refused to answer when questioned as to how many are working their notice. Most of those leaving are off to BA, VS, or Cathay.
The website states 5-6yrs to command, currently the company is looking at crews who joined in late 2004 -early 2005 for command upgrades when they achieve the required hours.
757/A300 fleet replacement is a joke, still no decision, the gossip is because of cost, or rather not being able to afford to pay for replacements.
Everyday MON becomes more like Easy/Ryan, everyday more are leaving to pastures fresh.

The figure 20 is what i have heard being banded around.

Monarch Man - you are mistaken, Easy and Ryan Air are well paid. Moanarch for a new joiner, is not like either of those two or come to think of it BA,VS,Thomas Cook, Air Two etc.
Try Jet 2 for your comparison.:*