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Dozza2k 24th October 2005 20:21

BA junior FO pay
 
If possible could someone share a months take home after tax for the airbus for the lowest of the low FO's.

Regards

D2K

Ropey Pilot 25th October 2005 07:11

Annual salary £42 841 (From PPJN)
Annual flight pay £12000 Approx (from BA recruiting - 20% taxed I think - could be wrong)

Assuming you got through the maths test on day 1 you should be able to work out the approx take home from that :p

TopBunk 25th October 2005 07:19

Ropey

Sorry but yes you are wrong...

The annual flight pay is made up of 2 elements:[list=1][*]FLIGHT PAY - paid at £9 (it may be £10 now) per planned flying hour. This will be taxed at your marginal rate.[*]DUTY PAY - paid at about £2.60 per hour from report to clear at end of trip. This is taxed at 18%.[/list=1]

Plan on about 750 flying hours per year [shorthaul LHR] and about [from recollection] 2600 hrs TAFB (Time Away From Base) and you won't be far wrong.

HTH

davecr 25th October 2005 07:52

QUOTE

"Annual salary £42 841 (From PPJN)
Annual flight pay £12000 Approx (from BA recruiting - 20% taxed I think - could be wrong)"

Actually, it's now around 25,000 instead of 42,000... PPJN is old info.

PS.. a BA junior FO told me he takes home approx. 2400-2800 GBP per month.

Megaton 25th October 2005 08:20

According to my contract £42841 is exactly what my starting basic salary will be (DEP) so perhaps ppjn isn't so far out after all.

davecr 25th October 2005 08:21

Sorry, I assumed SSP entry ;) They make you pay for your training now by lowering starting salary.

763 jock 25th October 2005 08:39

BKB-who did you leave to join BA?

Artificial Horizon 25th October 2005 09:12

I'm a DEP on shorthaul and take home between £3400-£3600 per month, having said that the low hour guys on the TEP/SSP scheme are on less than this.

Dozza2k 25th October 2005 09:53

apologies,

should have stated it was for first year SSP pay scale.

I'm well aware of what my basic/flight/ duty is, I just wasn't sure how its all taxed etc.
Thats why I asked the Q,
thanks for the info

D2K

The Greaser 25th October 2005 14:30

Flight pay £10 per hour taxed 100%
Daily allowance £10 per day untaxed
Hourly rate £2.64 - 18% is taxed

Salaries have just gone up 2.8% I think
First year DEP FO basic is £44000

Ive been told to expect £15000 or a touch more in allowances per year on longhaul.

BMM389EC 25th October 2005 23:36

So after flight and duty pay is added what is one left with after it's all taxed? And is that reasonable money in the UK?

davecr 26th October 2005 13:36

Compared to many other entry positions 27k + type rating + joc + decent flight pay is still very very good!

GS-Alpha 26th October 2005 13:37

During the recent pay restructuring in BA, one of BALPA's aims was to either do away with the £15,000 repayment for cadets, or to remove the differential pay between Training Entry Pilots and Direct Entry Pilots. In reality, the £15,000 replayment remained, and the pay differential actually increased!

This increase in pay differential basically means:

A new Cadet Entry Pilot now, would pay back £56,136 for his/her training.

A new Training Entry Pilot (low houred pilot) currently pays back £41,136.

These figures are comparisons between two short haul pilots in their first 4 years, and the differentials increase with every pay rise. The difference between a CEP and a TEP is always £15000.

Basically, this agreement has killed off the BA Cadet scheme for good. As the previous poster rightly says, what is a TEP getting for this £41,136 other than the chance to join BA?

Flying Dispatcher 28th October 2005 09:32

BKB, what u are forgetting is that although the SSP pilots are on a reduced salary (which is competetive with any turbo-prop operator) they are gettin experience on a Jet and X years of seniority in the Worlds Favorite Airline....not such a bad deal :cool:

sikeano 30th October 2005 17:05

bkb
you sure your previous employer was not mcdon

smells of onion rings here :ok:

Desk-pilot 31st October 2005 11:29

737 roster v A320 at BA
 
Just curious what sort of differences exist in roster/working patterns for low hour joiners on B737 v A320 at BA? I have heard that at LHR they use bidline and this doesn't favour the new entrants as much as the Gatwick system but would value some indication as to how much difference there really is from those with experience of either fleet.

Many thanks,

Desk-pilot

Flying Dispatcher 31st October 2005 13:53

can't speak for the 737, but the Airbus is not that bad. for the first six months or so, you can expect 'blind lines'. In other words you get the trips that no one has bid for. This can be good, it can be bad, just depends on luck. Once your seniority increases, you get more control over your roster.

A collegue of mine had 3 weekends off in 1 month on a blind line last month...and he is quite junior. I on the other hand worked them all!!!:)


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