Quote 'You haven't even joined Virgin and you have that handle already, keen or what '

Sorry to dissapoint but I'm a re-joiner. That name was registered in the mid-90's when I last worked for VS!

VP, were you redundant post 9/11? I was just wondering how many people returned. I know it wasn't as many as the company assumed would.

No I left voluntarily in the late 90's to pursue a life overseas.

That's slightly infuriating news as I fall into the latter category! I was under the impression from Janine that being taken from the pool was a case of first in, first out. :confused:

GGM,

You have PM from a fellow CCQ marathon swimmer :)

Energiser

PM replied to! My arms and legs are starting to ache - particularly while everyone else seems to be overtaking us.....:(

Hi, i just recieved a letter from janine confirming my details have been updated altho this is the first time i have applied! Is this just standard procedure to acknowledge your CV has been received? Any of you guys in the holding pool receive this or did you just get called straight for interview? Just wondering if I can expect anything further, I have 3500hrs TT nearly all of which is airline on Jet.

Hi everybody!

scroggs,

Do you think I can get a job with Virgin if I have the work permit for uk but don't have the EU passport.

Maybe you know somebody who can answer this question.

Thanks for any information.

Ops controllers
 

Would anyone have any idea on ops controler vacancies or crewing jobs in VS, I note that none are currently advertised, but surely with a fleet and route expansion..some of these jobs may come up

Thanks

honey737 I believe that, as we are a JAA airline, you need to have the right to live and work in the EU rather than the UK. However, I'm sure Virgin's Human Resources Dept could put you straight.

Flame Why don't you ring Virgin Ops or Crewing departments? I'm sure you can find their 'phone numbers if you try! Flying and pilots is my area of 'expertise' (loosely speaking).

Thanks for infor. Will try to send them my request

Does anyone out there have a feel for Virgin's attitude to hiring ex-military multi-engine pilots (say, hypothetically of course, with 4000TT, of which 3000 4-jet). Any masonic hand-shakes, nods, winks or reality checks would be gratefully received!

There are a lot of you (us) already there!

A few of my colleagues are off to Virgin.

Can someone there tell me - with all the added extra from the latest pay deal, what is likely to be the average take home pay for a new FO.

Also, what are your rosters like (number of trips, how long for, days off in a month, hours per month, etc.)

What are your leave and RDO booking systems like?

Can you request preference for any trips?

What are the benefits like.

Are there many ex-airforce pilots?

How many levae Virgin and where do they go?

Airbus Girl most of this has been covered before on previous Virgin threads (there have been many!); you may like to do a search for more detail, but I'll give some basics here.

The initial basic pay for a Virgin FO is just under 42K pa from July '04. Hourly profit-related and productivity pay will add a further 7.7k (taxable & pensionable) assuming contract hours (750) are achieved. Subsistence allowances (not taxed) will add a further 5 to 7K, but that is not paid with salary. Take home pay will depend on your tax status and the amount you elect to contribute to your pension (the company contributes 15% as long as you contribute 6%+).

Rosters depend on the aircraft type; the 744 flies shorter trips (generally), and so pilots will average about 4.5 trips a month, the A340 peeps about 4. Days off monthly (at home) will be around 10-12 (but a lot of that will be spent sleeping!).

The leave system is about to change, so any comment is likely to be overtaken by events. Days off (and specific flights) can be requested two months ahead.

Benefits are similar to most major UK airlines: loss-of-licence, death-in-service, permanent health (critical illness), private medical cover, staff travel, discount schemes within and outside Virgin Group companies etc, etc.

There are lots of ex-RAF (and Navy and Army) pilots.

Very few leave Virgin, with the obvious exception of those forced to after 9/11. Most of those came back subsequently. Most pilots see Virgin as a permanent career move, not a step to anywhere else.

could anybody tell me what is the best way to make, they have a look at my cv? Phone call? to submmit one cv a month? To fill the applicattion form often?

I thinkI think i do have the requirements

Or after nearly one year trying to get their attention, should I give up? thanks

Scroggs, thanks for the info, I did a couple of searches but couldn't find this info out, and the various websites (ppjn, balpa, etc.) seem to have out of date info.

So from what you say the trips are around 4-5 days long. I guess that is one day out and two days (overnight) back, or vice versa depending on direction of travel. Then 2 days off, then another 4-5 day trip?

What are your average hours per month.

Just want to get all the (first hand) info as don't want to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire!!!

An east coast USA trip will leave UK pm day 1, nightstop USA that night, return the following evening US time, arriving home roughly 48 hours after departure. West coast trips add a day to that. Far East flights vary, depending on the schedule. The longest trips (Shanghai, Delhi, some Caribbeans) currently have you away from home for about 5 days total. Australia (if and when it turns up) will be around 9/10 days. Time off depends on the length of the trip, but is a minimum of two days post-flight (not including the day of arrival).

Hours are contracted at 750/year. To achieve that with leave, sim, courses etc, requires rostering at about 80 credit hours/month, or around about 70 flying hours in a month with no leave scheduled. A JFK represents about 15 flying hours, Hong Kong is 25 or so.

Thanks scroggs

your last two post have been very informative, also tried the search function but has not brought up a lot of the info you have just posted.

cheers

fc

Scroggs, I take issue with your statement that most post 9/11 redundees came back. I know of only a couple who returned. In my airline, there are seven of us and as four already have their wide body commands with our new employers with the rest to follow soon, it's unlikely they will! And I can think of at least another dozen or more who went to other airlines who won't be coming back.

Quite a few of us (self included) took the voluntary redundancy option when we realised just how long it would take to get a command in Virgin.