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pilotofjet 12th Jan 2003 09:48

EasyJet advertising banner on pprune
 
"Stability in a Dynamic Enviroment"....?Danny, this advert is misleading to the pilot workforce. Can we have it removed. As an EasyJet pilot, I find it insulting to think that fellow professional pilots might be misled into joining the worst airline in Europe. I am sure fellow easyjet pilots will echo my sentiments.

kennedy 12th Jan 2003 11:21

As a fellow easyjet pilot, I second this proposal.

I wouldn't want Pprune to be in trouble for supporting false advertising!!!

Hans-Uhlrich 12th Jan 2003 13:53

I'm severely pissed of this company full of so much bull it's not true-"an open environment"?- they have they're heads so far up their own backsides.
Can you imagine how much worse things are going to be in the summer again.Forget the false lull of the winter break - thats almost over-just remember last summer-this summer will be worse.

springbok449 12th Jan 2003 14:44

Maybe the advert knows something we don't? A good deal just around the corner?!
Whoops, just got a severe slap around the head and got woken up: it is false advertising!

James100 12th Jan 2003 15:00

I completely agree!!! my heart really does go out to those poor easyjet pilots!!!! and whats more the pax!!!! Is there an EZY pilot out there that will support the airline???? I think not!!!!!


P.S will there be a strike???

bakerloo 12th Jan 2003 15:14

Lose the advert, it is misleading, E.J pilot`s in dispute with management and they call it stable and dynamic. The T`s & C`s negotiations have been going for nearly a year and still no sign of a solution.
I agree with my colleagues above

Scallywag 12th Jan 2003 16:30

EASY POST A LOSS !

Subject:
Company: easyJet PLC
Date: Thu 9th Jan 2003 7:13:58
Country:
Industry:

easyJet chief warns of H1 loss

LONDON (AFX) - easyJet PLC, Europe's largest low-cost airline, will report a
loss for its first six months to the end of March, Ray Webster, chief executive,
said in an interview with the Financial Times.
The airline came under heavy pressure from investors in early trading
yesterday amid concerns sparked by disclosure of its December traffic figures.
EasyJet had a lower level of capacity utilisation last month with the higher
share of empty seats reflecting in part the rapid 44 pct growth in the airline's
capacity year-on-year, which outpaced a 38.6 pct rise in passenger volumes.
"We are watching very carefully for changes in consumer demand, but it is
early days. There is no sense of any problems yet," Webster is reported as
saying.
ING equity analysts lowered the bank's recommendation for easyJet shares
from "hold" to "sell."
The bank said the traffic figures were "slightly disappointing" and said it
had "doubts" about the airline's explanation for weak yields in the current half
year.
"We remain nervous of our profit forecasts," the said.

ml/rn

Colonel Klink 12th Jan 2003 19:48

What about the bit that says: everyone makes a difference" as though individual opinions are respected and they have time to listen to you personally??? They would sooner listen to Lord Haw Haw than a pilot over at easyLand!:mad:

Finman 12th Jan 2003 19:49

Stability?
 
Back to the thread. Stability is a joke. Managers won't challenge CAP 371 even if they agree that rostering practice is unsafe. The advert should be blocked:mad:

keepitlit 12th Jan 2003 21:24

:eek: Good luck guys,
Ive just watched the "airline" program last week of an "easy" xmas or not! and the LPL base captain refered to the easy pilots as "busdrivers" and im not talking about your trade-ins for new peugeots either.
How many bus drivers do you know payed up to 60k to drive a bus!
This came from the person that "wanted to give the public a better view of pilots as a previous series had degraded them"

Nice job,NOT

Rgds K.I.L.


;)

P.Pilcher 12th Jan 2003 21:50

I expect that in order to keep Uncle Danny in enough biscuits to keep PPRuNe free to all us users, he has to accept every bit of advertising he can lay his hands on. Of course this does not mean that we are prevented from posting rumours which may be contradictory to the "information" contained in the adverts - despite the fact that some advertisers may not like it.

Caveat Emptor!

Danny 12th Jan 2003 22:01

Remember that the revenue from the advert you want to cull helps to provide you with a public forum to air your views which would otherwise go unnoticed except to be misrepresented in the press.

More seriously, perhaps you should understand that I have a contract with easyJet to host their banner. If you feel that the message represents false advertising then I suggest you start the appropriate proceedings and argue the fact in court. If you can present me with a court order to remove what you alledge is false advertising then I will comply. In the meantime I will continue to honour my contract and you can continue to air your views on a public forum dedicated to your profession.

rupetime 13th Jan 2003 08:28

No payrise for the past 12 months - sounds reasonably stable to me.

rt

GEENY 13th Jan 2003 10:49

pilotofjet,
have you tried Volare?

HME 13th Jan 2003 13:59

Ooohhh
 
I fly for Deutsche BA in Germany and i see the Posts above. Thank you..

Anti-ice 13th Jan 2003 15:13

And who was it on here (on behalf of easy jet) that said not so many months ago -

"The future's orange"............

I feel sorry for these guys if it really is that bad.

I feel even more sorry for the ground staff judging by the huge barrage of abuse they receive on (tv series) 'airline' .

Colonel Klink 13th Jan 2003 20:11

HME, Just wait until the "unique, open culture" becomes part of DBA, you will soon learn what it's only taken a few weeks for the Go people to learn: it's all a load of cr@p!!!:mad:

mjenkinsblackdog 14th Jan 2003 08:47

HME,
Id dust down your cv if I was you.
I think youll get a big sharpe shock if you join OJ JET.:cool:

Localizer Live 16th Jan 2003 11:06

..."stable...dynamic..." ... I have just worked 9 days with one day off in the middle (!) ... I wasn't very 'dynamic' after that (and not much fun to fly with either!!) - anyway...looking forward to the summer..(NOT).:p

Lavdumperer 16th Jan 2003 20:35

Sorry about rehashing this subject (probably many posts already related to this subject), but what is causing the scheduling problems from the pilots' point of view? This is not a rhetorical question. Seriously, which of the following MOST contributes to the problem:

1. poor scheduling department/management - inept...

2. lack of pilots

3. management's thirst for control - (e.g., Lorenzo at Continental)



Easyjet claims to be a Southwest clone. But you NEVER see discontent like this at Southwest - most Southwest pilots LOVE their job and are public advocates for Southwest. Why not adopt GO's scheduling system - or would that be too expensive? At least you have flying jobs (with new A319s on the way...).

Any logical (non-emotional) answers out there?


Good luck to all!


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