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HandsomeHarry 15th Dec 2023 22:29


Originally Posted by flyer4life (Post 11557244)
So still a real terms pay cut unfortunately.

BoE inflation calculator shows total inflation of 22% from 2019 to now :uhoh:


Someone may correct me but I believe it may different to what’s posted above.

2024 - 5.5%
2023 - 9%
2022 - 8% (2 separate increases of 4%)


MrWhitty 15th Dec 2023 23:01


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11557042)
Why on earth would you leave TUI for Jet2 for job security?

Most people join Jet2 to be based closer to home.

Once upon a time that was true, it’s changed now.
TUI pilots are now working their notice or have already left to Jet2, Virgin, DHL, even EasyJet this winter and yes a number went last year to Jet2, stayed in the same base they where in with TUI as well.

The company is going in the wrong direction, it’s obvious to anyone who joins in the last 4-5 years. Ts and Cs slashed, pay below that of Jet2s for most towards the bottom of the seniority list. Time to command that mirrors SH BA command now with less pension. But it’s fine if you’re willing to do lots of overtime, have no quality of a family life and be constantly fatigued.

FairPlay to Jet2 they moved into a gap that Thomas cook left and have done a lot very well and they’re growing on that success now. It’s a matter of time before a Jet2 aircraft lands in Florida/Mexico and I’ve a feeling they won’t be targeting BA/VS customers either………

Oceanic815 16th Dec 2023 04:09

Johnny, I’m pretty certain there were 2 pay rises in 2021. If I remember correctly it was 4% in Apr and another 4% in Oct.

JM926 16th Dec 2023 06:20

April 2022, a 4% (I think was 4…if not 4, 5 maybe) pay rise took effect.

later that summer a further 4% was given and after summer 2022 a one off £1000 bonus was paid

April 2023, a 9% pay rise took effect.

July 2023, a profit share pot of money, 6% of profits was paid out.

April 2024, a 5.5% payrise is due to take effect.

july 2024, a profit share pot of money, this time 5% of profits is due to be paid out

if you run the numbers, I think LHS salary back when covid initially kicked off was a little shy of 109k basic. When you run those pay rises through it gets you to what will be new basic salary from April 2024 for LHS which is about £136.5k

Boeing 7E7 16th Dec 2023 07:05


Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants (Post 11557225)
3 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
2 years ago - Covid - no pay rise
1 year ago - 9% all in one go
This years pay rise will be 5.5% all in one go

Additionally there is a profit share scheme. Last year it was 6% of the profit shared out between all employees.

There is also a share save scheme giving you an opportunity to opt in and save upto £500 per month for a 3 year period. When the 3 years is up you use the money saved to purchase shares at a price set at the start of the saving scheme.

thank you 🙏

Boeing 7E7 16th Dec 2023 07:07


Originally Posted by JM926 (Post 11557445)
April 2022, a 4% (I think was 4…if not 4, 5 maybe) pay rise took effect.

later that summer a further 4% was given and after summer 2022 a one off £1000 bonus was paid

April 2023, a 9% pay rise took effect.

July 2023, a profit share pot of money, 6% of profits was paid out.

April 2024, a 5.5% payrise is due to take effect.

july 2024, a profit share pot of money, this time 5% of profits is due to be paid out

if you run the numbers, I think LHS salary back when covid initially kicked off was a little shy of 109k basic. When you run those pay rises through it gets you to what will be new basic salary from April 2024 for LHS which is about £136.5k

thank you. Very helpful 🙏

MartinB738 16th Dec 2023 07:51

Salary not % increase?
 
Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?

Prob30Tempo TSRA 16th Dec 2023 08:31


Originally Posted by MartinB738 (Post 11557491)
Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?


I’m not sure a small rise over 150k is worth it tax wise

Basicsteve 16th Dec 2023 08:32


Originally Posted by MartinB738 (Post 11557491)
Hi, shouldn't the question really be about salary, rather than the % increase last and this year? I'd rather have a 2% rise on £150k than 10% on £100k.

So what are the typical captain and SFO salaries at Jet2? and TUI while at it?


with my rough maths basics are looking like :

£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k

£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860

tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter

JM926 16th Dec 2023 09:24


Originally Posted by Basicsteve (Post 11557518)
with my rough maths basics are looking like :

£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k

£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860

tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter


I have never had 10-15k of flying pay in the RHS at J2. Perhaps if you are in a hugely busy base and flat out but it still seems optimistic to be honest.

That said, between flying/sector pay PLUS profit share then the total 100-105k probably is about right for SFO

midnight cruiser 16th Dec 2023 09:35

It's not all about money (and frankly all the locos pay within a few grand of reach other, plus winter rosters that apparently are still usually filled up to minimum days off with standbys, so that benefit is debatable. Plus uniforms that look like they were sourced from a party fancy dress shop). Described to me as a very very odd company, and not in a good way; She thought highly of the pilot side, but support from the other teams/mini fiefdoms (CC, ground etc) dependant on whether they feel like it or not, and only accountable upwards to management at HQ, and not within base, hence weird infighting and occasional lack of cooperation. If an airline feels the need to plaster "friendly low fares" on its planes, (crocodile smiles abound) and when "work as one team" is described as working less as one team than any other she had encountered, one has to wonder....

Fletch 16th Dec 2023 10:25

So has the Jet2 bonus been reduced for this coming/future year(s)?

Prob30Tempo TSRA 16th Dec 2023 11:36


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 11557554)
It's not all about money (and frankly all the locos pay within a few grand of reach other, plus winter rosters that apparently are still usually filled up to minimum days off with standbys, so that benefit is debatable. Plus uniforms that look like they were sourced from a party fancy dress shop). Described to me as a very very odd company, and not in a good way; She thought highly of the pilot side, but support from the other teams/mini fiefdoms (CC, ground etc) dependant on whether they feel like it or not, and only accountable upwards to management at HQ, and not within base, hence weird infighting and occasional lack of cooperation. If an airline feels the need to plaster "friendly low fares" on its planes, (crocodile smiles abound) and when "work as one team" is described as working less as one team than any other she had encountered, one has to wonder....


what’s wrong with “ friendly low fares “? Seems they are trying to to distance themselves from the opposition - unfriendly low fares and the clockwork orange .

I’m impressed with their TCs and the way they’ve built the business - I remember channex when it had a handful of F27s - they’ve come a long way

Chesty Morgan 16th Dec 2023 14:48


Originally Posted by Fletch (Post 11557582)
So has the Jet2 bonus been reduced for this coming/future year(s)?

It was initially set at 5%, last year they upped it to 6%, this year it's 5 again.

So, no.

HidekiTojo 16th Dec 2023 20:40

5% is a rubbish deal.

Chesty Morgan 16th Dec 2023 20:50

5% of half a billion isn't "rubbish".

Mr Albert Ross 17th Dec 2023 06:10

Half a billion Zim$$s??

:p

Vokes55 17th Dec 2023 08:26


Originally Posted by MrWhitty (Post 11557346)
Once upon a time that was true, it’s changed now.
TUI pilots are now working their notice or have already left to Jet2, Virgin, DHL, even EasyJet this winter and yes a number went last year to Jet2, stayed in the same base they where in with TUI as well.

The company is going in the wrong direction, it’s obvious to anyone who joins in the last 4-5 years. Ts and Cs slashed, pay below that of Jet2s for most towards the bottom of the seniority list. Time to command that mirrors SH BA command now with less pension. But it’s fine if you’re willing to do lots of overtime, have no quality of a family life and be constantly fatigued.

FairPlay to Jet2 they moved into a gap that Thomas cook left and have done a lot very well and they’re growing on that success now. It’s a matter of time before a Jet2 aircraft lands in Florida/Mexico and I’ve a feeling they won’t be targeting BA/VS customers either………

According to Jet2 management and willingly slurped up by the workforce and a select few obsessives on here, yes.

In the real world, no.

Basicsteve 17th Dec 2023 08:39


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 11558070)
According to Jet2 management and willingly slurped up by the workforce and a select few obsessives on here, yes.

In the real world, no.


Unfortunately you can’t hide from the facts , I hope TUI remain and continue to stick around as it’s good to have some competition!

Mr Good Cat 17th Dec 2023 09:56


Originally Posted by Basicsteve (Post 11557518)
with my rough maths basics are looking like :<br /><br />£89000 for SFO (typical flight pay etc is prob around 10-15k ) £100-105k<br /><br />£135860 for CPT ( roughly the same but probably around 5k more ). £155860<br /><br />tbh not bad considering the down time in the winter

<br /><br />

Okay, so this is just a rough approximation for skippers in 2024 assuming about 700 hours per year (so only relevant to 737 crews as the 757 and Bus are very quiet at the moment):
Basic £137,000+Fight Pay £10,000+Pension £13,700+Bonus £10,000
= Line Skipper package c.£170

+LTC / TRI adjustment c.£20k
= LTC or TRI package£190k

+TRE adjustment £30k
= TRE package c.£200k

Trainers work very hard. Plan accordingly.

Line skippers work hard for 4-6 months, then relatively quiet over winter.


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