As this thread is supposed to be about Jet2 recruitment let’s be honest, as a J2 captain on the 737 if you work 4 days a week they will invariably be Friday to Monday, although it’s possible to get most weekends off in the winter by creative use of requested days off and breaking your leave up. And if you’re a bog standard line captain after the latest pay rise you’ll earn at best £130k gross and probably a bit less, you’ll need to be a fairly senior trainer to be on £160k…. That’s what it is, if it means you can live in Newcastle or Leeds and have a cheaper house that’s fine, but don’t pretend it’s something it isn’t. I’m happy to earn less than some other companies because I don’t want to do four sector days with 35 minute turn arounds. But if you work less you earn a bit less, that’s how the world usually works.
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Originally Posted by YosserHughes
(Post 11269895)
Any rated Captains had a call for assessment yet?
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Originally Posted by Lazydogg
(Post 11271188)
No
Anyway you go and enjoy your job and let us be happy in ours. |
Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
(Post 11270424)
So is paying for your own uniform, car park pass, sim time, line training, hotac, transport etc..
So is wanting to do 900 hours a year, living out of a suitcase in a different hotel each night, or spending days away from your family whilst shoving a delta pay cut (despite the excellently strong union?!) up your behind all because you want to say you work for a certain airline. Alternatively the circa 500 hours I do a year for an airline in rude financial health, working 3-4 days a week makes my 8%+ pay rise this year, profit share bonus, share options, 140k/Yr salary and the next 5 weekends off having saved thousands in Balpa fees seem somehow...worth it. Each to their own though, I don't begrudge you for putting up with any of the above and if being a Ryanair trainer or telling people you're a BA pilot is enough for you to put up with it then good for you. If you're happy then so am I. |
Originally Posted by Lazydogg
(Post 11271389)
Yes. Here is EXACTLY what you wrote.
How's my roster looking? |
Wow definitely had the popcorn out reading this.
I will throw some more wood on the fire. Have you added in teas/coffees full uniform costs etc etc. I got a mate at BA 787 12 years in as FO and pre COVID most of his trips were Mon-Fri. Occasional weekend and is on around £130k. EK FOs on £10k a month if you take the housing allowance as standard. That’s around £200k salary in UK. Honestly you guys there’s not much in it. Both your salaries are pretty good. Everyone’s circumstances are different. What’s horrible for one might be luxury to others. Let’s get back to Jet2 now. |
Was going to say your friend was telling you serious porky pies to get anywhere near that after 13 years if he’s on 34PP scale, but then remembered .. the old 24 pay point scale :{.
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Originally Posted by Wireless
(Post 11271461)
Was going to say your friend was telling you serious porky pies to get anywhere near that after 13 years if he’s on 34PP scale, but then remembered .. the old 24 pay point scale :{.
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No he told me his take home most months is £6k. He might be on 24 scale actually I haven’t asked. This was pre covid around 2018.
I believe him when I have seen my best mates pay slips. His first year at BA 777 he didn’t earn less that £4500 every month with 2 months over £6k due to overtime. Made redundant unfortunately. |
Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
(Post 11271415)
Income isn't the same as salary.
How's my roster looking? |
Originally Posted by Lazydogg
(Post 11271666)
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
Have a gander at your crystal ball and check my roster inbetween weekends will you? And perhaps being a football fan might go some way to explaining your lack of comprehension. |
Please guys! back on topic!!
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
(Post 11271692)
Well that might be what you infer but certainly not what I imply. Besides weekends are overrated, busy and generally full of people so in fact I'd prefer to not have weekends off.
Have a gander at your crystal ball and check my roster inbetween weekends will you? And perhaps being a football fan might go some way to explaining your lack of comprehension. Anyway Jet2 : I know between 60-80 guys and girls there ranging from Captains, FOs DBPMs, BPMs, LTCs and TRIs ranging from mainly ex RYR and some BABY, Norwegian and Flydubai. The reactions are always mixed. Some being happy to be at the regional base of their choosing to others incessantly complaining about the brutal rosters in the summer and others in close proximity to LBA, endlessly being put in the sim as bodies. A lot also complain that the 3 RDOs are simply not enough to maintain an acceptable home and social life. The majority of those 60-80 people I have trained from Cadet to Command/Training Captains and Jet2 are damn lucky to have them on their books. It's not for me due to the fact that they could never offer me the Renumeration/Work life balance and job security that I currently enjoy, but thats not to say it isn't for everyone. I hope people find that a balanced observation including Mr/Mrs bang His/Her Chesty the resident Jet 2 Ape. |
Much better than your original "100% it's pathetic" post.
Well done. |
I’ve never heard a bunch of people so insecure. 🤦🏻♂️🤣
I have a week off every month and only work 12 days and have zero issues getting the days off I want. I wouldn’t trade that to work for anyone else. Stop comparing dick sizes! |
Originally Posted by Lazydogg
(Post 11271666)
You have the next 5 weekends off which would imply that you don't have the sixth. I'll be thinking of you when I'm watching Football Focus.
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To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job. |
Originally Posted by Twiglet1
(Post 11271878)
Lazydogg If you look through Chesty Morgan's 1000+ posts you'll see a trend - all responsible facts and info. Not always pro Jet 2 just giving readers facts so they could make educated decisions. Your coming across as a bit of a wayne kerr.
Funny how a little twig calls a tre. prize wayne Kerr. |
Originally Posted by speed13ird
(Post 11271936)
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job. At what point in your summaries do charter and schedule flying…..respect one’s efforts as they pore over fatigue reports.! If you feel knackered now Adays. You call, file, and ask for down time. One’s efforts to continue on regards are ohhhhh so held in such high esteem. What what. on time performance. Do it. All in the best possible taste! |
Originally Posted by speed13ird
(Post 11271936)
To summarise, scheduled airlines give you a better roster and consequently you suffer micro management as the screws are turned in the name of efficiency. Charter airline management tend to be a little more understanding and respect one's efforts more as they pore over the fatigue reports.
Jet2 seem to be doing a good job. It depends on the airline. I was talking with a RYR Fo few days ago and he said he got given 2 weeks off (not taken out of his leave allowance) because he had called fatigued and rolling roster was showing close to 900 hrs. My previous scheduled outfit when I was in a similar situation they just said have an extra 2 days off. From my experience charters are worse and if you don’t like it move on!!! “We can find someone else.” I have worked at random roster and now fixed days off and for me fixed days off is much better. Having seen J2 rosters they look savage through summer, and to me a bit boring, ALC 5-7 days in a row. Ok J2 get more time off in winter, for me I would rather work through winter. It’s cold and nothing to do except sit at home waiting maybe to get called. Boring. Some people will love that. Each to there own. |
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