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BarryMG 25th May 2019 16:46

easyJet taxation
 
I would like to know how is the salary in easy taxed, for example on italian contract. When I punch in the the supposed "average" gross salary (judging by PPJN and EZ job adverts for FO/SFO, in the region of €70-80k gross) into online tax calculators, I end up with a figure of €3,500-4,000 net/month. That's not that much, however I potentially see a flaw in my reasoning that maybe some parts of the salary are taxed differently (lower) than others, and that results in a higher net figure? Could anyone enlighten me? How's it in another countries in the network?

FlightDetent 25th May 2019 18:07

I came to believe that full proper taxation across EU, for a high earning bracket like this, is in the range of 38 - 45 %.

Your numbers give 40% exactly. As much as it is a piece of bad news, looking for a different tax calculator might not be the solution.

CaptainProp 25th May 2019 18:49

Italian based SFOs are taking home close to €6000 / month on busy months, closer to €5k on slower months. I know a few personally and info coming directly from them. On italian contracts the fixed basic is lower, as its taxed higher, while there’s a higher fixed, plus variable, flight allowance and this is taxed lower. This is at least how I understood it.

CP

EcamSurprise 25th May 2019 20:07

The above sounds about right with what i've heard too.

The German headline basic also looks a bit 'low' but you also receive your 16% shift allowance on top. Plus then loyalty pay monthly, sector and other variables.

dirk85 25th May 2019 21:24


Originally Posted by CaptainProp (Post 10479507)
Italian based SFOs are taking home close to €6000 / month on busy months, closer to €5k on slower months. I know a few personally and info coming directly from them. On italian contracts the fixed basic is lower, as its taxed higher, while there’s a higher fixed, plus variable, flight allowance and this is taxed lower. This is at least how I understood it.

CP

Correct. FOs net salary is a tad more than 5k on average over 12 months, and roughly 6k as an SFO, depending a bit on your tax deductions, but not much variance. Plus some kind of private pension, on top of the state one. The last few years the average was between 600 and 650 hours flown, but many sectors. Captains fly a bit more.
It takes 2 years to become SFO in Italy, even if you have 20k hours, you cannot join straight on that rank.

Taxation would be difficult to explain in detail, but CaptainProp gives a good idea.

EPST 25th May 2019 22:03

As stated above, takehome pay per rank is roughly:
SO: €4200
FO: €5000
SFO: close to €6000
All of these are nett per month.

Reason for the high net pay compared to (not extremely high) gross, is the way the salary is taxed.
Basic pay is relatively low but taxed at ~40%. On top of that you receive sectorpay and so called "diaria" which is a daily allowance. These elements are tax free, thus the "overall taxation" is ~22%.

Also you receive a performance bonus (depending on company performance) and loyalty bonus (when eligible). And when operating > 35 sectors, the sectorpay from the 36th sector onwards is doubled.

BarryMG 26th May 2019 09:29

Thanks very much, that clears things up!

McMax 26th May 2019 09:39

Can anyone shed some light on how the actual net for SO/FO/SFO/Cpt on a German contract looks like, please?

Thanks in advance.

TheAirMission 26th May 2019 18:33


Originally Posted by McMax (Post 10479865)
Can anyone shed some light on how the actual net for SO/FO/SFO/Cpt on a German contract looks like, please?

Thanks in advance.

SO - 2,700
FO - 3700-4,000
SFO - 5,000 -5,500
CPT - 7,500-9,500 depending on marriage status kids etc..

Bubair 26th May 2019 19:45


Originally Posted by EPST (Post 10479617)
As stated above, takehome pay per rank is roughly:
SO: €4200
FO: €5000
SFO: close to €6000
All of these are nett per month.

Reason for the high net pay compared to (not extremely high) gross, is the way the salary is taxed.
Basic pay is relatively low but taxed at ~40%. On top of that you receive sectorpay and so called "diaria" which is a daily allowance. These elements are tax free, thus the "overall taxation" is ~22%.

Also you receive a performance bonus (depending on company performance) and loyalty bonus (when eligible). And when operating > 35 sectors, the sectorpay from the 36th sector onwards is doubled.

EPST: Sector pay on the Italian contract is NOT tax free but taxed for 50% of its amount since it is a “flight allowance”...

McMax 27th May 2019 09:23


Originally Posted by TheAirMission (Post 10480171)
SO - 2,700
FO - 3700-4,000
SFO - 5,000 -5,500
CPT - 7,500-9,500 depending on marriage status kids etc..


Thank you very much.

EDDT 27th May 2019 09:51

The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

benty 27th May 2019 11:40


Originally Posted by EDDT (Post 10480515)
The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

I've heard that in TXL there are around 10 overnights a month. I'll be based there soon, can anyone confirm this?

Thank you

McMax 27th May 2019 15:07


Originally Posted by EDDT (Post 10480515)
The easyJet contracts in Germany are acceptable for
– becoming a Captain quick
- no overnights or layovers
- no jetlag
- flying a handful of destinations with the same aircraft type
- work from comfortable, small airports

and not acceptable for...? ;)
Would love a base somewhere further south/south west in Germany...

Denti 27th May 2019 16:03


Originally Posted by benty (Post 10480584)
I've heard that in TXL there are around 10 overnights a month. I'll be based there soon, can anyone confirm this?

Thank you

Overnights are dropping from 7 per day to 4 per day in June. Additionally two aircraft will be replaced by two wetlease aircraft which means that pilots are not flying all that much over the summer (between 30 and 45 hours in june for many), however, they have a lot of standby. Preferential bidding allows to bid for no overnights, which works very well indeed, as there are quite a few who shuttle anyway and prefer to fly overnight duties. Not more than one night away in a row is planned though except for training duties.

benty 27th May 2019 17:06


Originally Posted by Denti (Post 10480761)
Overnights are dropping from 7 per day to 4 per day in June. Additionally two aircraft will be replaced by two wetlease aircraft which means that pilots are not flying all that much over the summer (between 30 and 45 hours in june for many), however, they have a lot of standby. Preferential bidding allows to bid for no overnights, which works very well indeed, as there are quite a few who shuttle anyway and prefer to fly overnight duties. Not more than one night away in a row is planned though except for training duties.

Thank you :)

tomelam 28th May 2019 09:41

Does anyone have any information about easyJet's SO and FO pay in Spain?

BarryMG 22nd Jun 2019 09:40

Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

C212-100 22nd Jun 2019 16:15


Originally Posted by BarryMG (Post 10500288)
Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

CPT pay is around 5500€-6300€; SFO pay around 4000-4500€ net per month on a normal month (dependent on amount of sectors flown and its length).
To be multiplied by 14 as you will get a double month in June and another in November.

Additionally Performance Bonus is between 10 and 20% of you basic annual pay. Paid in December. Last years’ performance originated 17,5% Bonus to every pilot on a Portuguese base.

Portuguese contracts aren’t the greatest in the network but I wouldn’t define them as poor. On the other hand, taxation in Portugal is unbelievable.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
C

dirk85 22nd Jun 2019 16:26


Originally Posted by BarryMG (Post 10500288)
Also, any figures for Portugal? Just got an email from EZY advising available bases to join in early 2020, Porto is among them - I know a long time ago the contract was poor, but how is it now? What's the average net pay for FO/SFO (CP as well if you know)?

I am curious, which other bases were on offer?


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