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dellafc4 10th Sep 2018 21:15

UK EASA Licence Transfer
 
Hello,
Can anyone suggest which country would be a "good one" to transfer an EASA licence (in terms of communication, Language (preferred English), clarity, responsiveness).
I currently hold a UK EASA licence with some expired ratings, the brexit date is getting close and there is no indication of what is going to happen.

Anyone's experience or advice is of great value.
Thanks

Flying Clog 11th Sep 2018 08:53

Without a shadow of a doubt, go the Irish EASA route. I was in the same situation as you and did my JAR UK ATPL to EASA Irish ATPL conversion two years ago. Very straight forward paperwork exercise, no sim required, and you get your type ratings moved across as well. No other EU countries do that without a sim.

iggy 11th Sep 2018 09:03

I believed you will be asked for proof of residence in that EASA country (i.e. land line bill with your name on it) or a job offer from a EASA airline based there.

500 above 11th Sep 2018 09:32


Originally Posted by iggy (Post 10246305)
I believed you will be asked for proof of residence in that EASA country (i.e. land line bill with your name on it) or a job offer from a EASA airline based there.

Not true, Iíve changed from UK to Irish to Austrian with no questions.

The Irish are great to work with, but I cannot complain about the Austrians too. Both have been far better to deal with than the CAA.

Fox_one 11th Sep 2018 10:06

Remember though, if it’s the worst case scenario of no deal, we (UK nationals) will lose our rights to live and work in the EU. I imagine in time a visa system would be set up but I fear it’s likely to be a long and costly process. It will also be dependent on the EU airline sponsoring you. Knowing how airlines operate I do fear us Brits will be at the bottom of the pile of applicants, behind all those from the other 27 countries who are ready and legal to work in the EU immediately.

With all that considered, I would second getting a Irish Licence as you can gererally speak to a real person should there be any issues with the transfer.

Good luck

PorridgeStirrer 11th Sep 2018 11:06

In such a scenario, there will still be free movement between Ireland and the UK; the ĎCommon Travel Areaí will remain irrespective of what happens.

Fortissimo 11th Sep 2018 11:31

I am told the 'no deal' Brexit plan is that your EASA licence will be automatically converted to a UK ATPL on 29 March, which will allow you to fly G-reg aircraft. The position on M-reg etc (other states of registration are available) is not quite so clear.

You can also expect a lift and shift of the Basic Regs and the rest of the EASA-related hard and soft law into UK law, effective for 2 years. The intent is that the UK will mirror any EASA changes in this period too. At least, that is what the DfT is saying.

Bora Bora 11th Sep 2018 15:34

Should one convert to an EASA licence, can you keep the UK EASA licence going as well? Or is it either one EASA licence or the other? Need my UK EASA licence for my current job, but would like to have both in case things really go terribly wrong.

BONES_ 11th Sep 2018 15:54


I believed you will be asked for proof of residence in that EASA country
not anymore - i believe that was the case under JAR


Should one convert to an EASA licence, can you keep the UK EASA licence going as well? Or is it either one EASA licence or the other? Need my UK EASA licence for my current job, but would like to have both in case things really go terribly wrong.
only one EASA licence, so it’s either one or the other i’m afraid.

rudestuff 11th Sep 2018 15:55

You can have as many national licences as you like but only one EASA licence.

citabria06g 11th Sep 2018 16:41

UK to reissue pilot licences in 'no-deal' Brexit

So not only am I going to lose the ability to fly anything other than G-reg (without validation), they want me to pay £75 for it??! And the CAA are the first to admit they don't have qualified staff - good luck getting any paperwork through in less than 3 months!

Madness...

EDIT: and all those who paid to have their 61.75 reissued with the EASA licence number will now have the privilege of paying again to do the whole thing in reverse :ugh:

BONES_ 11th Sep 2018 17:16


citabria06g 11th Sep 2018 18:16

What is misleading is this frankly ludicrous statement, whoever wrote it should be prosecuted. Apparently it is becoming the norm in the UK to lie in order to further your own agenda, much like the orange buffoon.


Our licences are internationally recognised - including by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) - both now and after 29 March 2019.

The CAA will continue to issue and reissue pilots' licences when they are lost, damaged, when details need to be changed or pilots' privileges updated as we do now. Over time, this would include removing references to EASA - a purely cosmetic change.
Purely cosmetic my ass. Yes licences will be recognised as ICAO licences, just like Namibian or Vietnamese licences, but the privilege to fly an F-reg or a D-reg is gone. The CAA know this and are lying through their teeth.

Negan 11th Sep 2018 19:01

If ATPL students don't finish their exams by 29th March it's looking likely that it will not be a EASA ATPL Theory as the UK CAA will lose it's EASA deal and be under it's own licencing and examinations process

This is really one big mess for a lot of people even for non Brits

Lexsis 11th Sep 2018 20:34

What I am wondering about is if they are ready to cope with the demand of pilots sending in SOLI forms and the CAA to issue Doc 155 certificates to the CAA's of other countries the coming months.

Also, what if you manage to get your medical file transferred from the UK CAA and doc 155 form to another EASA member state CAA. But you dont have a new license yet from the other EU state's CAA before the end of March? Will they still be able to issue it since they recieved all the information before the brexit date?

Cygnet720 11th Sep 2018 20:44

Just switched mine, I am EU citizen and used to hold U.K. EASA ATPL. Straight forward process, the only problem is the U.K. CAA is in quite some mess atm, took me 2 months and approx 2 hrs on phone in total to get all the docs right as they didnít send any additional info until I called and reminded about myself. But after all docs were sorted 155 form was send whithin a week. Medical took approx 2 weeks.

As I know you can switch between EASA members easily and do not require any additional examination, just doc 155 and medical information. You also do not need to work in the state youíre switching to nor live there. The only problem is posed by German LBA as I heard (purely rumors).

I have never heard of a sim check requirement and I enquired 4 CAA States, maybe I donít know enough? Can somebody enlighten me? Decided to stop at the CAA I am employed atm in the end, as colleagues can easily help to adjust to a new docs etc. Otherwise the switch process was the same for all CAAs I enquired.

Lexsis 11th Sep 2018 20:48


Originally Posted by Cygnet720 (Post 10246792)
Just switched mine, I am EU citizen and used to hold U.K. EASA ATPL. Straight forward process, the only problem is the U.K. CAA is in quite some mess atm, took me 2 months and approx 2 hrs on phone in total to get all the docs right as they didnít send any additional info until I called and reminded about myself. But after all docs were sorted 155 form was send whithin a week. Medical took approx 2 weeks.

So basically call them, call them, call them to get things done....

Field Required 11th Sep 2018 21:55


Originally Posted by Negan (Post 10246724)
If ATPL students don't finish their exams by 29th March it's looking likely that it will not be a EASA ATPL Theory as the UK CAA will lose it's EASA deal and be under it's own licencing and examinations process

This is really one big mess for a lot of people even for non Brits

This is extremely troubling as I have literally just started with Bristol Ground School.

TURIN 11th Sep 2018 23:43

I suggest everyone writes to their MPs. I have and had a response. Not a great response but at least I gave them a poke with a stick. Needs doing.

dellafc4 12th Sep 2018 13:14

Thanks for all the feedback...


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