Aviation authority restricting licences by airline
 

Hello all!

Not sure if this the correct forum for this but I'll go ahead.

The aviation authority in a friend's current country of employment has started restricting all operating crew type ratings to their specific airlines. These are crew ratings or revalidations that have been completed generally with CAE, CTC and other places in Europe. The sim training is usually wet lease and the crew on their return to their various airlines within the country, are now receiving their licences (after they have been validated by the local aviation authority) with a restriction that states 'valid for [X airlines] operations only'.

As this seems to be unheard of, many people are wondering about the legality of the situation. Does anyone have any idea whatsoever about where information can be found regarding this type of restriction or is it best for those affected to seek legal advice?

Thank you

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This is normal if it's a zero flight time rating.

Once you have completed line training you can get it taken off when you provide the training records with the tre sign offs for the sim circuits and first 4 or 6 landings.

If it's a normal type rating with circuits in the aircraft it shouldn't be a restricted rating.

Hi, thanks for the response. They're doing it with all regular sim recurrent training for captains and FOs alike, not just for initial ratings/trainees. Doesn't seem right then.

Just to avoid confusion about using word "validation" - are you talking about EASA ATPL license is being marked with this restriction or we talking about non-EASA licenses validated by a certain EASA country and this restriction is stipulated on validation document (latter is normal)?

They have non-EASA licences (ICAO), and their authority is non-European. I was referring to standard sim rating renewals with the previous post. This stipulation is on their ICAO/local licences and is seemingly being rolled out to all licences for current crew operating at any airlines within the country.

Sounds like someone has been taking the piss with moving crews about. If they are doing it to EASA licensed pilots its illegal, ICAO ones working on a temp approval I suspect its fair game, more restrictive than required but nothing preventing it.

Ok so it's illegal for the EASA pilots so I'll ask about those working there on EASA licences. The others aren't working on temp approval, they are locals flying with local/ICAO licences. Perhaps it's allowed with ICAO, it's just that no-one seems to have heard of anything like this occurring in the past.

Is this an EASA country?

IACO doesn't cover those sort of procedures its sets the minimum standards, there is nothing stopping a country being more restrictive. So its not a case of ICAO allowing it more a case of nothing stopping them. So local CAA can stipulate what they like for their national license holders.

Again if its a validated EASA license again the local CAA can put whatever restrictions on it likes.

To be honest its sounds like you are not working for an EASA AoC holder. Local rules will carry the day and they can do what they want.

Well it's not for me as I have an EASA licence so I can only give limited info, as it was given to me. You're correct, it's a non-EASA country. There has mostly been a lot of confusion regarding the legality as it is now affecting anyone who goes for sim/recurrent training there. Thank you for your help!

I have 5 national licences and an EASA. At one point with a JarOps Norwegian licence I got a UK Validation which was Type and Company specific.
3 years later the same in Italy on another type, again Type and Company specific.

The Italian was a record: written, flight test in Aosta and paperwork in Roma, all in less then 36 hrs.
I love Italy.
Ps
Are you talking about Dubai, by any chance?
Regards
Il Commandante
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