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Airone2977 12th Dec 2017 14:05

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...20th-1.3324473

Mr Angry from Purley 12th Dec 2017 15:19

Let's hope O'Leary doesn't have the last laugh.
Stick together

ExDubai 12th Dec 2017 15:24

Yepp and keep in mind this is a log distance race....

I like the FR response....
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ike/?market=ie


While some disruption may occur, Ryanair believes this will largely be confined to a small group of pilots who are working their notice and will shortly leave Ryanair, so they don’t care how much upset they cause colleagues or customers.

dirk85 12th Dec 2017 15:37

https://image.ibb.co/gguYSw/Schermat...e_17_33_46.png

Sober Lark 12th Dec 2017 16:06

CAMP IT compliments of IMPACT.

Reversethrustset 12th Dec 2017 16:08

Parasites like this are endemic in the industry unfortunately. The best thing to do is not turn up for work, then when he takes it away just organise more industrial action. You and he will soon realise the power is in the workforce and not with this grubby little weasel.

Dualbleed 12th Dec 2017 16:45

“Eddie Wilson” What a fantastic set of people skills he must possess. Petty little dictator comes to mind. !

ExDubai 12th Dec 2017 17:00

What's the ratio on the LHS between direct employment and contracting at FR?

gearlever 12th Dec 2017 18:03

To say "VC is a LUFTHANSA UNION" means to claim Trump to be "President of Women's lib".

McBruce 12th Dec 2017 18:50

This process which needs done will almost certainly create pain on both sides but its a procedure that needs undertaken otherwise they will always dominate you as a work force. If they take away the 5/4 roster, given your already high on hours.... What could go wrong eh :E the history of the 5/4 is because they needed it to stop crew getting high on hours.

Internal flights and shorter sectors on the continent mean't a lot of bases would be more optimum for them on a 5/3. Force them to the table under your terms, not theirs. Good luck.

TheMightyAtom 12th Dec 2017 19:01


Originally Posted by ExDubai (Post 9987875)
What's the ratio on the LHS between direct employment and contracting at FR?

At a meeting Eddie said something like 70/30 employee/contractor for LHS. Then 15/85 for RHS

KelvinD 12th Dec 2017 20:38

Their Italian pilots too are planning to strike.

GScapture 12th Dec 2017 22:48

All the best guys and girls, stick together. They can threat with 5/3 as much as they like but the fact is; They do not have enough crew.

hunnywagon 12th Dec 2017 22:59

Good luck to Ryanair pilots with their strike. TCX's management were forced to think again when their BALPA pilot members launched a successful industrial action. No one wants to do it, but you've got to stand up to the bullies.

Sonikt 13th Dec 2017 01:12


Originally Posted by GScapture (Post 9988207)
They can threat with 5/3 as much as they like but the fact is; They do not have enough crew.

Such an obviously ludicrous threat shows that Ryanair are out of options

Even if they do out of sheer arrogance change the roster, this will simply exacerbate the existing crewing issue, giving crew more leverage in the dispute.

So keep going everyone - you literally can't loose this one!

compton3bravo 13th Dec 2017 06:17

Chief People Officer - that is a new one on me! He sounds like a right so -and-so to put it mildly.

Rated De 13th Dec 2017 07:01

To a hammer, the problem is always a nail...

More of the same. Stay respectful and indifferent, their model of human response and remedy expects emotion (they set it up like that) so that their various veiled threats can be wheeled out against those steeping up.

Quiet indifference is the key. If one is fatigued and stressed it is hard to operate.

'Gandhi once observed that every movement goes through four stages: First they ignore you; then they abuse you; then they crack down on you and then you win'.

Rated De 13th Dec 2017 07:09


Ryanair is also free – under both Irish & EU law – to decline to engage with (competitor pilot) unions. Ryanair will not recognise an Aer Lingus pilot union, no matter how often or how long this tiny minority (earning between €150,000 to €190,000 p.a.) try to disrupt our flights or our customers plans during Christmas week.
Oh this reminds me of Olivia Wirth at Qantas during the 'dispute' in 2011, management induced crisis it was!

She stated pilots 'wanted first class travel and massages'
CEO Mr Joyce chipping in with an A380 Captain has a 'higher pay rate than i do...

Oh those pesky overpaid bus drivers Michael. How does your tenure look Michael when revenue is declining quarter on quarter?

South Prince 13th Dec 2017 07:14


Originally Posted by Rated De (Post 9988471)
To a hammer, the problem is always a nail...

More of the same. Stay respectful and indifferent, their model of human response and remedy expects emotion (they set it up like that) so that their various veiled threats can be wheeled out against those steeping up.

Quiet indifference is the key. If one is fatigued and stressed it is hard to operate.

'Gandhi once observed that every movement goes through four stages: First they ignore you; then they abuse you; then they crack down on you and then you win'.

As an outside observer they are pretty well set up for another spring/summer crack down on crewing issues if they do not really switch manners.

Jwscud 13th Dec 2017 08:24

Eddie Wilson has always been Ryanair’s Union Buster in chief. He was responsible for the negotiations that led to Ryanair pulling out of Denmark after the CPH Unions stood up to Ryanair over conditions for cabin crew there.

He’s a nasty piece of work.

Best of luck to all my former colleagues - delighted to see things are finally changing :D


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