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jeehaa 15th Sep 2017 18:33

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...22671?mode=amp

Up to 50 Cancellations for 6 weeks due to staff shortage

Luibar 15th Sep 2017 19:16

Maybe its time for FR to face reality. 5 on 4 off is not enough anymore. I've been told that even NTR DEC are not lining up anymore. True or not who cares...

Flyingfisher 15th Sep 2017 20:04

Ryanair spainish flight cancelled for Sunday 17th not able to contact "the live chat line for re-routing. BUSY ????
Anybody any idea was it ???

(1) lack of staff.

(2) what if any compensation a passenger might get. ( according to the web site if you make your own way home you will have to claim from your travel insurance). But what choice does one have.

Vokes55 15th Sep 2017 20:09

Now Ryanair have sent all pilots a memo that "to improve productivity, they may have to change the roster pattern", and some pilots have already gone on to 5/3 with today's roster.

zerotohero 15th Sep 2017 20:35

Just saw this in the news..... I am going to spend the next 10 mins on the floor after falling off my chair laughing then ill come back for a full read of the rumours lol........ After 8 years in that company before jumping ship in 2014 I can't tell you how happy I am it seems to have finally bitten them back.

Fantastic news for us Pilots.

Maxfli 15th Sep 2017 20:50


Originally Posted by zerotohero (Post 9893009)
Fantastic news for us Pilots.

?

All I see is 5/4 being turned into 5/3 for the FR drivers.
If you're out of hours....... unpaid leave, as in Winter, is always an option.

Don't see where there is an upside here.

Good luck to all.

directmisbi 15th Sep 2017 21:01

Plenty of upside. Either you leave, or you stand up and fight for your rights. Simples!

zerotohero 15th Sep 2017 21:04

The upside is that the cracks are becoming holes and they will have to stop the further degrading of terms to plug the holes. This will hopefully stop the race to the bottom getting even lower.

Yes if your in FR this could suck short term but if your employed elsewhere this could change the mind of an employer saying lets not give a pay rise next year after seeing that you can't get away with it for ever.

CaptainSensible 15th Sep 2017 21:14

RYR arrogance really knows no bounds, and as usual it's not their fault. Mismanaged recruitment and retention policies pure and simple. If the ECJ ruling and cnx flights due lack of staff do affect the share price then surely questions to be asked at the next AGM?

Vokes55 15th Sep 2017 21:19

If Ryanair pilots actually grew a backbone, this situation would not 'suck' for them because they'd flat out refuse to operate duties outside of the agreed roster pattern, would offer to work days off for an extra 500 Euro, etc. Unfortunately, they don't have a backbone, so Ryanair still get away with doing what they want with the pilots that are left.

RobsonCanolo 15th Sep 2017 21:21

9000 passengers a day for six weeks would be a lot of money in compensation. At some point it's cheaper isn't it to boost salaries and conditions so people stay and fly then having to pay compensation and letting down the passengers for not being able to retain staff because of bad conditions.

UAV689 15th Sep 2017 21:22

Ironically the 5/3 change will probably mean easier days as you can't sustain 4 sect days on 5/3 like you can on a 5/4, so that won't be a solution.

Am praying for some serious pressure from shareholders over this and the ecj ruling that just maybe will force a regime change.....well one can only hope.

smith 15th Sep 2017 22:29

Ryanair cancelling '40 to 50 flights a day' for six weeks
http://news.sky.com/story/ryanair-cancelling-40-to-50-flights-a-day-for-six-weeks-11037187

smith 15th Sep 2017 22:34

To be honest anyone who joined FR in the last 10years went in with their eyes open or otherwise had been living in a cave.

They went in there paying for their type rating, sleeping in airport car parks and paying to fly simply to tread on anyone in their path. They are as guilty as MOL in reducing T&C's.

So anyone on here who willingly applied to FR for a job and are complaining or laughing at FR's predicament should simply STFU and take a look in the mirror to see where it all went wrong.

SliabhLuachra 15th Sep 2017 22:49


Originally Posted by smith (Post 9893121)
To be honest anyone who joined FR in the last 10years went in with their eyes open or otherwise had been living in a cave.

They went in there paying for their type rating, sleeping in airport car parks and paying to fly simply to tread on anyone in their path. They are as guilty as MOL in reducing T&C's.

So anyone on here who willingly applied to FR for a job and are complaining or laughing at FR's predicament should simply STFU and take a look in the mirror to see where it all went wrong.

Oh, grow up! Tell that to the bank and your family who's house will be taken away after you've bounded it to a loan if you don't start working. It's the management's fault. Sickening stuff goes on there. They're working in their office with slides and pool tables in blissful ignorance while people are having their careers ruined and their lives as well.

seafire6b 15th Sep 2017 23:20

The Daily Wail is now on the case, and with (for them) only a minor distortion, i.e. "Ryanair cancels up to EIGHTY flights a day for six weeks because their staff haven't taken enough holiday" ?

Ryanair cancels up to eighty flights a day for six weeks | Daily Mail Online


Also Ryanair's Facebook page is getting swamped with complaints - interesting times.

RavenOne 15th Sep 2017 23:25

Lets hope that this will improve T and Cs...... Holidays? What is that?

Ivan aromer 15th Sep 2017 23:34

Mumkin Airways
 
Perhaps the chickens are coming home to roost, at long last.

highfive 16th Sep 2017 03:54

600 ++ Ex Air Berlin B737 rated pilots should sort out any shortages. Seen it all before with Air Europe, for those who can remember.

Long Haul 16th Sep 2017 05:34

According to this article in the Guardian, "The airline is changing its internal calendar as part of increases in holiday allowances for pilots and cabin staff, which has contributed to the backlog." Anyone noticed "increases in holiday allowances" recently?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ve-punctuality


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