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papazulu 6th Sep 2017 22:44


If you don't think they deserve it, the ask the people in West Berlin if they appreciate them?
So do we have to be grateful to the yanks also for the creation of the IS till the end of the times or would you like, as co-national of Tony Blair take your fair share of the merit too?

Beech Balls 7th Sep 2017 05:32


Originally Posted by BluSdUp (Post 9884327)
Beech Balls, I shure can understand that You want to go home, but I am intrigued by Your attitude towards Your project.
I have a few questions :
Have you started reading for the ATPL?
You have to be a captain to go Direct Entry Captain ( DEC) You are not, as I understand it,
You fly the 737 and want to go DEC with Easyjet an A320 operator?

I am afraid it aint that easy......

Yes I realize I have to be a Capt, and have 737 Capt time. I have turboprop PIC time which apparently doesn't count, which is idiotic since it's a harder job...
I'm looking long term here, starting the conversion process and getting he frozen ATPL and then knocking the type ride out of the way once flight time gets closer.
Easy jet does hire non A320 typed DEC.

TriStar_drvr 7th Sep 2017 06:14

Have you considered commuting? As an FO near upgrade you must be on or very near the eleven year pay rate. You could bid a line that flies 4 three day trips, trade two of them to have two six day work blocks and then have two weeks off between the blocks. You will soon, or already have 4 weeks of vacation a year, giving you 4 months of the year in which you only have to fly 6 days in the month if you drop all trips that touch your vacation week. Assuming you get 90 Trips for Pay for 8 months, and 80 Trips or Pay for four months, that would give you around $162,000 for working 120 days a year while flying around 750 hours at most.

Seems like to me you could be based in Baltimore or Chicago, fly in the day before and land in the afternoon. Do six days of AM trips, then catch the evening flight back to Rome or Milan.

I don't know what the Italian government would try to take in taxes. Don't forget that you can shelter $18,000 in retirement accounts from US taxes and also receive an extra 14% of that $162,000 plus profit sharing contributed to your retirement account.

I make it sound so good I'd try it if I had an E.U. Passport. Finally if you're senior to me, ignore all of the above and resign immediately ;)

akindofmagic 7th Sep 2017 09:54


Non National European airlines do not pay E120,000 net a year. With a taxation rate of 40% a captain that fly's a full schedule is lucky to take home E6,000 a month. And that's a grueling 900 hour a year schedule.
I'm part time and I take home around €10k a month (plus around €12k net bonus once a year). That doesn't take into account a bonus based on company performance, free shares etc. (which I haven't included as they're not guaranteed).

Bubair 7th Sep 2017 13:58


Originally Posted by Beech Balls (Post 9884025)
I QM considering commuting to some extent. With vacation and 15 days off/month, we may be able to find a way to live in 'both' places at once.
Problem is we want to live in Italy (family/friends), but I love GA and warbirds and the possibility of staying in that game in the US. There is almost NO general aviation in Italy.

With the easyJet contract you can be on leave for 15days every other month.
I perfectly know what you mean about GA in Italy....I am a Cpt for ezy based in Italy and every other month I hop to the west coast for GA flying......too bad there are no DEC positions in USA (very happy to be proved wrong on that sentence...:) )

button push ignored 7th Sep 2017 14:18

Top hourly pay in United States.
Most airlines max out with 12 years seniority.

Delta $330
United $328
American $323
UPS $309
FedEx $296
Southwest $251
Kalitta $250
Allegiant $222
JetBlue $219
ABX $219
Hawaiian $207
Virgin America $189
Spirit $185
Air Transport $182
Southern $172
National $170
Sun Country $169
Frontier $167

For a average yearly pay, add three zeros and multiply by twelve.

733driver 7th Sep 2017 16:28

That can't be right. I think adding three zeros is enough for a rough yearly salary.

standbykid 7th Sep 2017 18:16

Multiply by 72 (Keeps you under 900 hrs per year)
Multiply by 12.
Probably gets you in the ballpark.

sodapop 7th Sep 2017 20:51

Listen, if you are truly an Italian SWA pilot with a US passport, then you are either (here it comes);

1. An idiot who has never tried to obtain a flying job in Italy and doesn't understand how to obtain an EASA license.
2. An idiot who wants to leave SWA ( where I, a REAL dual US/Italian Citizen) have around 30 ex-USAF colleagues flying for SWA, thinking he will earn a decent living or get a DEC in Ryan or Easy with his outstanding right seat FO time. (Ridiculous KLM FO pay scale and bullsh*t Italian 28000€ flat tax rates aside)
3. An aviation troll (i.e. idiot) who flies drones around his backyard while trying not to burn his brats on the Weber.

Either way, man up and make a decision.


PS: after some decent Raboso di Piave vino I couldn't resist. Buonanotte a tutti

arketip 7th Sep 2017 21:22


Originally Posted by sodapop (Post 9885406)
PS: after some decent Raboso di Piave vino I couldn't resist. Buonanotte a tutti

Just drunk talk then.

sodapop 7th Sep 2017 21:34


Originally Posted by arketip (Post 9885425)
Just drunk talk then.

Said the non-pilot in his sober wisdom


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