Course?
Has anyone actually started with Thomas Cook in recent weeks? I have been through the process but no course dates have even been mentioned?
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Originally Posted by Dave_t6
(Post 10081310)
Has anyone actually started with Thomas Cook in recent weeks? I have been through the process but no course dates have even been mentioned?
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Agreed the public won’t base their travel choice on strike-unless it were safety-related which it wasn’t. But passengers DO choose to fly with a brand they recognise with an experienced U.K. regulated operation and pilots. Would they have chosen to fly with a small airline in a former-Soviet republic operating far from its regulator with a business model which hinges on high turnover of very low-paid pilots?
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
(Post 10088584)
Agreed the public won’t base their travel choice on strike-unless it were safety-related which it wasn’t. But passengers DO choose to fly with a brand they recognise with an experienced U.K. regulated operation and pilots. Would they have chosen to fly with a small airline in a former-Soviet republic operating far from its regulator with a business model which hinges on high turnover of very low-paid pilots?
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In which case why don’t they fly under their own branding so passengers can make an informed choice? I’ve nothing against Smartlynx as such, but holiday-makers are being conned that they are flying on a Thomas Cook aircraft
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
(Post 10088629)
In which case why don’t they fly under their own branding so passengers can make an informed choice? I’ve nothing against Smartlynx as such, but holiday-makers are being conned that they are flying on a Thomas Cook aircraft
Note 1. It is not uncommon for passengers not to actually know where on the planet they are actually bound for! |
You are correct in your assessment of passenger apathy.
Passengers remain indifferent even when 100% of the pilots and flight attendants are outsourced and have no employment relationship the airline. Unions in the US are demanding this information be disclosed to passengers at ticket purchase. No US airline operates with 100% outsourced crews, ACMI replacements are seldom used. |
That's good to hear, usual own goals. As much as I deplore the attempt to reduce t&c's within the group by inventing TCBals, I'd far rather fly on a jet that had at least some oversight and investment from the main airline group, than the aforesaid ACMI's, which I would not fly on by choice. TCBals will struggle in the current recruitment climate, but I suspect it is the shape of the group airline of the future.
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Originally Posted by Direct Bondi
(Post 10089947)
No US airline operates with 100% outsourced crews, ACMI replacements are seldom used.
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Originally Posted by MonarchOrBust
(Post 10474683)
So, what's the deal. Still seeing FO recruitment adverts across the group. Is that for expansion despite all the doom, gloom and negativity or simply to replace people retiring/moving on?
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
(Post 10474741)
Airline side almost certain to be sold to keep the wolf (bond holders) from the door. Who knows what happens to the crews then - might be a back door to Virgin, might not. Amazing how quickly the Germans undid the recovery created by Harriet Green.
The uncertainty is the worst part, and the company don't tell us anything! Not even reassuring us. |
Hope it all works out for you guys. Was reading today about payment companies withholding the dish from tickets, that is a nightmare for short term liquidity |
Originally Posted by UAV689
(Post 10474899)
Hope it all works out for you guys. Was reading today about payment companies withholding the dish from tickets, that is a nightmare for short term liquidity Direct bookings for flights-only on thomascookairlines.com are not having payments withheld, thankfully. |
Alot of the media reporting is borderline hysterical and not helpful. However the company need to be a bit more active in correcting this before it takes hold. Airline sale needs to happen sooner not later.
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Originally Posted by USERNAME_
(Post 10474903)
Far as i'm aware, the payments being withheld are bookings made via thomascook.com or other forms of package holiday.
Direct bookings for flights-only on thomascookairlines.com are not having payments withheld, thankfully. No, it’s just in the Nordics. And they are not at this point withholding payment. They are in talks with Thomas cook about an extension to terms. Hopefully it won’t come to that. |
Perhaps Greybull Capital could buy them........ |
Originally Posted by RAT 5
(Post 9915633)
The Public also need educating sometimes. Some of the recent decisions in various elections, worldwide, might have been based on mis-information and they might have been suckered by the side that were better at clouding the real issues than the other.
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Latest gossip is, TC won't sell their airlines after all.
Apparently found other ways of controlling their dept. |
Originally Posted by safelife
(Post 10506510)
Latest gossip is, TC won't sell their airlines after all.
Apparently found other ways of controlling their dept. |
I heard there was a conference yesterday. Any news?
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