I may have misworded my request, it is a genuine one. Congrats for your leap of faith, by the way!

The Aeroflot's conditions are not the worst in EU. From what I learned, definitely better than Primera's (unless you had lived at one of their bases and/or could reach for the high level PIC hrs pay).

Though I assumed you were connected to AFL recruitment - sorry for that - we're still interested to know. Even if AFL were the low edge, sharing their T&C helps. It puts a mirror in front of the "western" 3rd tiers and pushes up the whole pyramid.

This is a SAIL thread, let's not hijack it. Hence the request for a separate one. It is time to get fat, the winter's coming.

If there is moneny trouble, SAS main will of course pay the salaries, after all, SAIL is needed before the negotiations with SAS main next spring.....

That was my main worry since the beginning. Even if successful, well organized and set-up for a healthy growth, would not be SAIL sacrificed during the big SAS negotiations?
Is the ethics behind them really to start an off-shoot with a low-cost base, or are the SAS bosses just cultivating a bargaining chip to be burned later?

RE late Sept pay; same thing happened to us at Primera Air this weekend just gone. Lots of talk from the airline and the agency about 'slow banks' and 'no admin staff over the weekend' etc. 24 hours later the airline went into administration (ie.last night). Some of us were paid. Others are still waiting. We were also employed by agency (ASTA, under Mountain High) who sound every bit as incompetent and chaotic as CAE judging by some of these posts. I was considering a move to SAIL as LHR would suit me as would the 5/4. But i'm wondering if things are any better? Or if they are destined for the same fate? Lack of pilots, cabin crew, trainers and Ts & Cs not good enough to retain the ones they had were what sunk Primera. Although the airline management are trying to make it sound like it was the late delivery of their A321 NEOs. Primera were too in the midst of recruitment (albeit too late) when they went under yesterday (with an OCC course literally under way with 9 more pilots and another 2 course to follow next month). So I guess the most immediate and searching question is...have you guys been paid yet??

Heard that some of the guys have been hit with Irish taxes is that right?

SAIL seems to have 2 airframes on order again, If the want to crew them, logical way would be to increase t&c, but still no confirmed news about that...

September pay in yet?

From what I heard the guys received already september pay...

Another thing seems like SAIL was lucky at the beginning to recruit pilots from Monarch and now might be the same case with Primera guys...

I believe you are right there Matt.

If SAIL is the last option, then why not, until something better pops up?

Well Flixn....

I don't think (or hope) they will be too surprised. Everybody in AirTanker knows how well it can bee in aviation, and how bad it is in low cost. Or "been there done that" goes for all of us, I guess.

Still hope for the guys that it will be a quick visit, but not more than that....

Is SAS mainline hiring for other bases than ARN soon?

They are already hiring for OSL alongside ARN, so I was told when I attended the interview.
For CPH there will probably be no recruiting this round.

Thanks! Do you know how long base transfers are? If one were to get ARN and wanted CPH would they get priority over new hires?

Thanks for letting me know, I'll wait then. :)

Is there anyone here who actually works for SAS Ireland? What's it like from the inside? How are the conditions?

https://caeparcaviation.com/jobs/195...320-capt-role/

"New & Improved Terms"

Anyone with inside information?

Let me guess the trade is about: flexi base and flexi roster whenever required?

How on earth did you come to that conclusion? ;)

https://standby.dk/fleksibilitet-er-...abers-fremtid/
"I fremtiden bliver det nødvendigt at tilpasse sig, hvis virksomheden skal have en chance for at klare sig i en benhård konkurrence på et globalt arbejdsmarked. Kodeordet på alle niveauer er fleksibilitet.”

https://www.laopiniondemalaga.es/mal...s/1044018.html


Meanwhile in Spain - union goes to the court with CAE for having 26 cabin crew out of 40 employed in Malaga working without a contract of employment :eek:

SAS Ireland
 

Hi All

First off, apologies if this is in the wrong part and if it’s been mentioned before, but I was unable to find anything.


Im interested in the new SAS Heathrow Op’s, and have a few question if anyone could answer them.

- Roster , it says 5 on 4 off, what does a typical roster look like? Is it mainly 1/2/3 sector days flying between LHR and Scandinavia?

- Night Stops , how many? With a young family home life is important for me

- Pay , are you employed on a self employed basis like some other European companies?

- Standby , is there any?

- Hours , how many a month is a new starting Capt likely to be doing a month?

If anyone has anything more to add, greatly appreciated

OMAA

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Thinking of joining SAIL as Cabin Crew, any possibility any of you could give me an insight into it? Pros and cons! Thanks in advance =)

Think all the answers you need are in the posts above. I am Cabin Crew myself and have found in the past airlines that treat their pilots like sh*t treat their cabin crews even worse and that seems to be the case here. I challenge you to scroll up and find a post about SAIL which is positive.

Friends at SAIL as CC say they are regularly paid late, and often underpaid every month, with per diems and commission missing.

Also all fees that were paid for by CAE during training were taken back from their wages over the course of a few months.

Hope this helps.