Azur Air Germany
 

Hi everyone,

Any info on Azur Air Germany, they're starting a 767 base in Dusseldorf.

Roster, destinations, pay?

Thanks

Azur
 

Hi
i have just received invitation as NTR , screening date on the 01.02.2017 B737 sim in Velbert.
cheers

Oh cool, let us now how ou get on and good luck for the assesment.

Would be interesting to know the pay and roster and if they're going to start with 3 767 as they said.

Tuga

Roster - new start up so expect to work very hard, roster changes, standby's and will they won't they survive - that's my experience of start up's anyway...:\

Thanks Mr.Angry

I joined a start up and it lasted 12 years :ouch:

The figures are the basic ones with more or less no experience and you are mistaking the nominated capital of the company with the budget (or what ever the exact english word would be for that).
If they would only have 300.000€ than they would be bankrupt by now.

Those figures are really low for an experienced 767 FO, if you deduct 45% German tax.
Does anyone know what stage is the AOC approval at?

The good news is that with a low salary like that you're not going to hit the 45% tax rate. More like 32%, even less when married.
If parts of the salary are paid tax-free (possible) the tax load will be even less.

Shocking, this makes NLH pay look amazing. Where is this going to end.

As it was stated, the salary starts at 3500€ but these figures are neither for experienced nor for 767 rated pilots.

Salary
 

Any idea of the basic salary for a rated 76 driver?

You pay "only" 42% and per diem are not taxed in Germany and there is a tax free payment due to night and shiftwork.

Oh you guys stop confusing everyone.

Tax in Germany is progressive! That means there is different tax brackets. Example: If you earn 100.000€ brutto a year, your effective tax is about 33%.
And 1,8% solidarity surcharge, that is for rebuilding eastern Germany after the communists. Then there is social security.
The 45% that float around are put together of 42% tax, a little bit solidarity surcharge AND social security (which covers unemployment) . But these 45% only apply to the Euros earned above approximately 65000/year.

I dont know why its constantly repeated here, how high tax in Germany would be. Income tax rates is much higher in many other EU-states..The highest bracket being often more than 50%. And VAT in Ger is below avg 19% too.

So what does the CPT salary which was stated above of 8000 brutto a month give net? Being insured in the public healthcare system (you can use a private insurance if you like to) it is 4300€. little? Yes. Every short haul FO that I know makes more.

Simple Tax calculator: https://www.bmf-steuerrechner.de/ekst/?

The taxation of per diems is partly taxable. But we are talking some plus/minus 100€ a month here. Thats peanuts.

Then you don't know any FOs from Aerologic :E

If you are a wide body CPT you will make about 8500-9000€ flying 60h per month. Depending on your experience it will be more, about 10.000€ flying 90h plus per diems. NLH Cpt makes about 10500€ including per diems, so not great, but not that bad.

42% taxation applies to the income above 54.000€ up to 260.000€ :E
The german tax system isn't that easy, but I guess that most of the people they are hiring are german, so they know about it.

Any word on requirements (76 experience, Total time)?

Being rated on type seems to be more appreciated than being from the region.

Absolutely. Will be interesting to see as a start up usually requires a bit of flexibility.
But how flexible can you be living in Lisbon, Rome or London with no staff travel?