Jax,
This isn't like a large legacy carrier. You don't just apply between fleets and transfer - your probably dealing with different agencies, AOCs etc.
Not to mention the bond and selection.

That short haul don't need 36 73 drivers is not attributable to the long haul operation

Monarch man- I totally agree that the conditions, from what I can read on this thread in particular, are not what you would expect for such a position living in the South of England. This is definitely not in question.
However for myself and most others I would imagine, paying the bills and feeding your family rates higher than fighting this ever declining industry on your own. If i had no job and needed to pay the bills then i wouldn't hesitate to take the job even for the conditions mentioned on this thread.
Everybody's situation is different and hence you can't know the reason why they took the job in the first place.

Cheers

Mach85
 

With the tax system in the UK asking about take home pay is likely to get the wrong answer for yourself ( it may be 100% correct for the person answering your question).

You need to know the gross pay and then do a bit of research on the HMR&C website ( income tax ) to enable an accurate answer for your personal tax position.

If you have other income you could slip into the 60% tax band.

Improvements?
 

Any truth to the rumours that long haul crew now have 10 days off instead of 8, and might get a 10-15% pay rise?

He's just a troll, ignore him.
amd I can tell you we have some great cabin crew trainers and generally a very good spirit de corps.

The pay rise and days off - this is correct. Those who have been here 3 years are now being shown the renewal conditions for when their contracts run out next year.

Thanks Fade to grey, so this is just for the guys who extend their contract? New joiners get same pay and still just 8 days off per month?

My thanks also but I would like to add a further question in addition to that from MyIDisthis.

When the Capts pay went up from roughly £88K to roughly £100K, did those already working get the increased pay or were they held to the conditions they had signed in their original contract?

Existing pilots were able to be based at lgw and be paid I pounds at a favourable exchange rate compared with the Actual situation for euros / pounds

The new contract is another slight rise, and will be based on a 65 block HR threshold, if you do more you get more. And days off paid at 1/10 per salary if you work them

Once again thanks for the info. So if a new improved contract comes in, will all pilots get it or will it only be for new joiners and existing pilots would have to wait for their contract renewal to get the new deal?

That, my friend, is a $64k question I can't answer.
Will they do three years on the old deal first ? I would doubt it.

It represents a monthly increase of £655 on basic.
£83 on per diems

It would seem.

I wonder what the current crop of 787 senior FOs think about Rishworth's unabated drive for DEC's?

I guess FOs sign a contract without any upgrade guarentee?

Will there be enough commands for all, or just the ageing & crusty brigade from EK and BA?

Why would a company bother upgrading when they can get DECs? given the low cost business model time to command cannot be guaranteed or predicted. A colleague that went in 2012 as a RCA is still an RCA and he had 6000 PIC 737NG. Originally BKK "based" but it would appear the waters got muddied with the transition to LGW base and the plentiful supply of silver surfers..sorry, experienced wide body Captains. Go in with your eyes open and the marriage may not end in divorce..

Just had the pleasure of sharing a ( hotel/airport shuttle ) bus with a NLH crew. I read STEXUP now censored comments and I did not like the racial innuendo..still I must admit that the impression was not good. I think Norwegian is trying to prove that any one can be a cabin crew..and the level seems indeed pretty low.

And exactly what has this to do with NLH pilot recruitment and conditions?

How about someone is interested in having an idea of what the environment might be like .. not really interested only on the monetary side of the story ...you know..

Most of the threads about NLH from people that actually work there are positive, they enjoy "their lot" the major gripe trolled by people NOT actually working there was the money not being compatible with legacy carriers and what may be considered the norm for wide body Captains. Not one single comment related the the cabin crew other than a moronic posting by some troll. The working environment as you put it seems good with the caveats mentioned by others about pay and rosters. This latest attempt to kindle negativity, as all the other ones have now died should also be shot down in flames, it is considered very bad form by " experienced " pilots to mention our colleagues in the cabin in negative terms " experienced" being the operative word..and as for " low levels" I would take a gamble the CC english is superior to many on this forum

Kirk..what the hell.. Have you now abandoned THY and taken the paladin role for NLH? Looks like you really have some vested interest in screwing the category. And does it comes to your mind that many might be not mother tongue Irish like you or simply using an error prone handheld device? By the way hoe many other languages can you speak? The impression I got was not positive. Depressed looking flight crew and an heterogeneously esthetically and acoustically unpleasant " lot". May be the trolls are the pumpers here. Remember..McDonalds is about to go bankrupt....��

When are the US D.O.T going to release the results of their investigation?

If it goes against NLH , what might be the consequences be for future expansion, or lack of?

Now i know why the are only using an agency .

cucuotto, OK back to the thread.. No I didn't leave THY but I was considering it as I only have 10 years left and was thinking of coming closer to extended family in UK. Personally, I would not want to join NLH for reasons which to some may seem pathetic, namely, Cheap hotels and minimum down route time, Loss of Licence and Medical become more important proportional to age. One could argue we are a spoilt protected species, but I think after 20 years you deserve a descent level of support and comfort from any employer. As you remarked, its not just about money..My point was that the guys on the line seem to be happy enough, the management is without conscience. Maybe in the future things will settle down and conditions will improve. Even Ryanair now recognise that stability of pilot employees is fundamental and they are thinking of running their own cadet schemes..i.e make then loyal and green from an early stage! Oh, yes, 3 languages, 4 if you count Gaelic..

So does anyone know how many RCAs have actually been upgraded to CA ? It would seem counterproductive in the long term for NLH to continue recruiting DECs, as then who would join as a RCA or FO knowing they will keep being bumped down by newcomers going straight to the LHS ?