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Phileas Fogg 23rd Jul 2016 10:03


it sounds like you're doubting whether the police will be able to find German based pilots
172,

Reading back I see nothing that suggests that RYR's flight crew flying ex Germany were actually domicile in Germany so please define what you mean by "based"?

You, yourself, suggested that if they lived in Bishops Horrible then their base would be STN, they would clock on and clock off each duty cycle at STN having, perhaps, worked a week away operating out/in of HHN.

So if they live in Bishops, clock on and off each duty cycle at STN then how the "F" are they considered to be based in Germany?

172_driver 23rd Jul 2016 10:40


Reading back I see nothing that suggests that RYR's flight crew flying ex Germany were actually domicile in Germany so please define what you mean by "based"?
Based means where you start and finish your duty. The majority of pilots are not floaters and spend most time in one base. It's not complicated really and by looking at someone's roster it should be obvious where they're based. when I recieved my base I got it written on paper. It's a FTL requirement. It may be far from where you are domicile, yet it defines where you should pay social taxes.

I agree with you, someone stepping through the door at STN, positioning at the behest of the company, flying out of HHN, positioning back to STN is not based in Germany. However, you are talking about a tiny fraction of pilots. Contractors based in Weeze, Hahn, Baden-Baden, Bremen and whatever more there is now is what you should be focusing on.

Phileas Fogg 23rd Jul 2016 11:48


Weeze, Hahn, Baden-Baden, Bremen
And they all lived in those locations and not in Bishops Horrible whilst based in STN etc.?

172_driver 23rd Jul 2016 12:06

Yes, the majority of Brookfield & McGinley pilots operating out of a German base are based in Germany. Where they are domicile could be all over Europe, but it's irrelevant.

Phileas Fogg 23rd Jul 2016 12:29

Would McGinley be the takeover of Storm Aviation pilots?

jayc004 22nd Dec 2016 10:32

Intersting to see that currently Brookfield are not renewing or extending any of the current Ryanair pilot's contracts. They are also not being allowed to issue new Ryanair contracts.

Having had a little look at their last accounts on Companies House, looks like things aren't quite as good as they once were.
As this is free to access and published information, I am able to write this information, but I am sure that Brookfield won't like it.

They turned over approx. £44million less this year to last, producing a loss of -£129,000 this year. In real terms, that means approx. £530,000 loss over the last 12 month period (previous year was £450,000)
Interesting thought that the director upped the salary he is taking to £240,000 per year (from £120,000 last year).
Looks like the company is going to use up that cash in the bank pretty soon at that rate of loss and outgoings, and may have to wind up the company in a few years........?!

I feel sorry for the other 9 employees (average over the year), who take a COMBINED salary of approx. £223,000 (£25,000 each). I would feel really annoyed if the director of a small admin company that was making a loss was taking salary up to 10x higher than mine!

Anyway, have a look. Makes for interesting reading, is totally free to access.
As they have opened a new company doing the same thing from the same address with the same director and a similar name, I wonder if Brookfield (iteration of) might be offering contracts with Ryanair again in the future.
It does however show you how the employment machine works.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/s...field+aviation

ExDubai 22nd Dec 2016 10:58

There is a reason why Brookfield is bleeding to death...

latecoere240 23rd Dec 2016 03:31

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Well, They have set up several companies... Their profit melt like an ice cream....
I guess, They are trying to diversify their offer. They opened 4 new one from last year....

RAT 5 23rd Dec 2016 12:20

Must be a very crowded office.

thebeast 6th Jan 2017 22:37

I believe all Brookfield contractors have been told the company is winding up?

Must be time to cut and run!

RAT 5 7th Jan 2017 07:56

If true that will deliver an interesting conundrum to quite a few. It has been reported that BRK contracts were the highest contractor rate. They close down and thus your contract is null & void. What then? Do you have to reapply to another agency to continue working for the same customer? It has been reported that the other agencies offer lower rates and slightly differing T's & C's in general. What then? Same job, increasing profits for customer, reduced income for contractor. That will test the mettle and resolve of many.
A true contractor would continue to bill their customer at the same rate as previous, or even a long belated increase.


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