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The Grey Man 1st Jan 2014 09:11

Thomas Cook recruiting
 
I hear Thomas Cook are shortly to start taking on can any one cast any light on this?:D

BN2A 1st Jan 2014 09:25

Are they ever going to make up their mind???

:ugh:

A and C 1st Jan 2014 09:32

TC are in a crisis, a business that has big debt problems and cutting costs is the order of the day, but on the other hand they can't run the business without finding some more pilots.

With the management painted into that corner the recruting will be the very minimum that can get away with and my guess they are delaying the decision until they know exactly how much flying they will be doing in 2014.

Mr Angry from Purley 1st Jan 2014 10:05

Share price is rocketing, losses halved in the year to the end of Sept. At a price though with hefty job losses and 195 travel agency branches planned to close.
I suspect if any pilots needed will be few. Hope the survival continues

bex88 1st Jan 2014 11:12

Did they not only recently cast off a load to the far flung corners of the earth on career breaks etc. I left a few years ago but based on my experience I can speak very highly of them as a employer. Perhaps the redundancy notice with the headed paper reading "Thomas Cook making dreams come true" was not such a good thing but I enjoyed my time there. Good luck

waco 1st Jan 2014 11:16

I wish to goodness someone would improve the quality of the pension scheme !

The Grey Man 1st Jan 2014 11:44

I am a bit confused because I'm sure I read somewhere on here a few months ago that they were offering redundancy. It would of been my airline of choice but I don't think so now.

Sussex Kestrel 1st Jan 2014 18:33

A & C,

Insightful and thoughtful. Well done for conjuring up two succinct paragraphs of complete and utter :mad:, though. Good effort, nonetheless...

Type changes, base changes, 'reserve captains', career breaks etc would suggest that filling the FTE the company now require, especially on a certain type in a certain base, may prove tricky. Company induced error? Probably. Hence the rumour for a few new guys- almost certainly type rating required?

Summer 2014 confirmed months ago.

macdo 2nd Jan 2014 07:26

TCX most certainly no longer a basket case, in fact, well on the road to recovery. The last year or two has not been comfortable but there are few better jobs in the UK. I repeat that last bit 'in the UK'. If they do recruit this year, and you are happy to do the traditional thing and sit in the right seat for quite a few years, then it is a very good (not perfect) place to work.
Oh and by modern standards the pension scheme is quite generous.

deepknight 4th Jan 2014 17:17

By most standards the pension scheme is remarkably generous, thanks to BALPA, though it may not seem like it to the legacy final salary guys. TCX is now well on the way to regaining its former position, as even a cursory glance at the city will show. But it has not been without extreme cost, and sadly, for the moment, TCX is no longer a career airline. You could pick at random almost any F/O from the list and elsewhere they would be a 10 year captain. Indeed, there are several 10-year captains who, in April, will be back in the right seat. Any F/O positions are certain to be temporary and may well require a type rating. But if you're young and prepared to give it time you could do far worse.

The Grey Man 5th Jan 2014 10:05

Why are they reducing the pilot work force when all other airlines appear to be expanding ? I understand it appears to be not a happy place to be. Which is a great shame.

LIMA OR ALPHA JUNK 6th Jan 2014 19:28

Fleet reduction is the short answer in 2012. Over 30 skippers, the DFO claims are not required for summer 2014 due to the fleet remaining static this year. Consequently they are being demoted in April.

TCUK is using 3 ACMI aircraft this summer instead of flying the passengers in house and blocks of capacity have been sold to Easyjet. There are a large number of Captains on career breaks to return still. Any junior F/O is wasting his/her time at TCX long term, short of massive expansion occurring.

Hope that helps.

The Grey Man 23rd Jan 2014 13:27

Does any TCX guys know which bases or fleets they are recruiting for ?:D

macdo 23rd Jan 2014 16:32

Why make a post like that unless you have seen an ad. or have it from the horses mouth that they are about to recruit. I know 2 people who would love to get into TCX and posts like the above just cause upset. If you know something concrete, share it, otherwise don't post.:mad:

Deeply Concerned 23rd Jan 2014 17:27

Quite with you macdo. The Grey Man is probably fishing for information but lets put this to bed permanently. There will be no recruitment this year. If there's any capacity required it will be filled with Cadets from Condor.

Three Lions 26th Jan 2014 08:22

Condor are taking cadets and also FOs with experience. They are now one big company so the post above could make sense

Thomas Cook still have many guys of their own to head back, so its doubtful there will be any recruitment this time round. Its clear to see they have bottomed out however there were some tough decisions taken over the last year or so, and TCX will look to bring their own people back first.

Its tough if you are looking to break in to one of the Operators in the UK but admirable in another way.

jaja 26th Jan 2014 11:41

Three Lions qoute :

“ They are now one big company "

Not so. Thomas Cook UK, Scandinavia, Belgium and Germany are still independant airlines...

Capt Scribble 26th Jan 2014 18:17

But working towards being interoperable, such as standardising the SOPs across all fleets this week.

Old King Coal 27th Jan 2014 08:33

jaja & Capt Scribble: Uhm, where & when did we hear that concept before?... ah yes, now I remember: Air Europe, in the late 1980's / early 1990's (and I was there) !

macdo 2nd Feb 2014 09:30

Cost saving synergies, route sharing, personnel sharing, a/c sharing and common operational policies etc. are slowly being rolled out. AOC issues will hold back true integration for the time being. Condor cadets are going to be doing some of their line training in the UK this summer. No sign of any UK recruitment yet, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any.


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